How can you use mouse keys without a numpad? I’ve tried over 15 times to close preview pane using track pad! Funny, I did it in Mountainlion the first time I tried!
You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: > I got it turned off permanently, but it takes some intuitive action with > whatever mouse manipulation is your preferred one. I use mouse keys, because > they’re independent of VO, and I can be assured that I track straight. > > Teresa > > "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. > Feynman > > On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> No, this is not the case. The issue is that, at least so far, if Preview >> Pane is active, you’ll need to turn it off while in Classic View and it will >> be applied to both views. Some folks here have had problems with it >> sticking but I have not. >> >> Later… >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> So, does this mean you cannot turn off preview in standard mode with >>> Mavericks Mail now? >>> >>> If this is the case, then another reason for me to stay back on Mountain >>> Lion. >>> >>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> hey, >>>> i love modern view it stops a lot of the VO chatter so i think i will stay >>>> with it myself. >>>> On 28 Oct 2013, at 2:56 am, Buddy Brannan <bu...@brannan.name> wrote: >>>> >>>>> While you can switch back to modern view, your settings won’t stick. If >>>>> you close your message view window after making the change to eliminate >>>>> the preview pane, or if you exit mail and go back in, the preview pane is >>>>> back. At last, that’s what happened to me after I made the change. Only >>>>> way to make the preview pane stay gone is to stay in class view. A shame, >>>>> because I’ve kinda gotten to like modern view. >>>>> -- >>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I find it easiest to do this in full-screen mode, command-control F for >>>>>> Mail. Turn mouse keys on. Switch to classic view in Mail preferences. >>>>>> You can use vO to place the mouse. Just navigate to the message table, >>>>>> but don’t interact with it. VO-right once and you should reach the >>>>>> horizontal splitter. Press control-VO-f5 to place the mouse there. Press >>>>>> the zero/insert key on the numpad once to lock the mouse down, then >>>>>> press and hold the six/right-arrow key on the numpad till you hear VO’s >>>>>> focus changing. this can take several seconds. Then press the >>>>>> period/delete key on the numpad to release the mouse. Double-check to be >>>>>> sure the horizontal splitter and preview pane are gone. At this point, >>>>>> you can switch back to modern view in Mail preferences if you wish. >>>>>> >>>>>> HtH, >>>>>> Teresa >>>>>> >>>>>> Slow down; you'll get there faster. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Kliphton ------- <kliphton....@outlook.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks like I still have a lot to learn. How do you place the mouse >>>>>>> pointer where you want it. Also, when you say you push numpad period, >>>>>>> what key do you push on the numpad? Or maybe I am miss understanding? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kliphton >>>>>>> (iMessage&Email) kliphton....@outlook.com >>>>>>> (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype) kliphton72 >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Teresa Cochran" >>>>>>> <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I use mouse keys, which is an accessibility feature you can enable in >>>>>>> the accessibility dialog, command-option-f5. Once you turn these on, >>>>>>> they actually move the real mouse pointer. I put mail in classic view, >>>>>>> then move to the right of the messages table, and place my mouse >>>>>>> pointer on the horizontal splitter. I press the 0 key on the keypad >>>>>>> once, and this locks the mouse down. then I hold down the number 6 key, >>>>>>> which moves the mouse to the right. When I hear VO say something >>>>>>> different, I release the mouse key with numpad period. I like using >>>>>>> this method, because I don’t track straight with a traditional mouse or >>>>>>> the trackpad, but this way ensures that I do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HtH, >>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Debbie April Yuille >>>>>>> <debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Teresa >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How do you disable the preview pane? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Debbie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2013 10:02 AM >>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As an additional note, I notice that with the preview pane disabled >>>>>>>> and with >>>>>>>> five preview lines of message text enabled, VO sure reads a lot more >>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>> five lines. It's almost like having the preview pane available without >>>>>>>> having to switch to it. pretty cool. :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
