i tried that with no luck;  but thanks for the link. guess i'm going to have to 
make an appointment with my local apple store. take care, max 
On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> No boot up sound even? There is a rather lengthy thread about the internal 
> speakers going away and how they were fixed here:
> 
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4277327?start=0&tstart=0
> 
> It includes everything from repeatedly plugging and unplugging the 
> headphones, poking the headphone jack with a toothpick, resetting the SMC and 
> one person even had their mainboard replaced (under warranty).
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/6/13 11:02 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote:
>> hello; no fancy audio software.  i wasn't even running vlc when it happened. 
>>  and it doesn't come back when i restart the computer.  thanks, max
>> On Sep 6, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't believe you can uninstall your internal speakers. Are you running 
>>> any extra sound stuff like audio hijack or soundflower? Does a restart 
>>> bring everything back?
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 9/6/13 8:15 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote:
>>>> Hello group; last night my speakers stopped working.  I can still get 
>>>> sound through the headphones.  when i go  to system preferences under 
>>>> sound it doesn't give me the option of choosing internal speakers.  how 
>>>> can i find out if they are broken or simply uninstalled.  And if they are 
>>>> uninstalled how do i get them back? thanks, max
>>>> 
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