Interesting, how much does the Seeing eye app cost, or is it a free app?
On Sep 1, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Lots of things as I know the Seeing App is fully VI friendly as it will tell 
> you what is in front and what is coming up next which Blind Square lacks.  I 
> don't want to open ten apps to get what I need as opening one app is enough.  
> On the bus even though I have not set a route it doesn't tell me where I am 
> and I have almost missed my stop even though I've told it what to do.
> On 1 Sep 2013, at 16:39, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> What does it not do for you?
>> On Sep 1, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been using Blind Square for some time now and unfortunately, I don't 
>>> think very much of it as it doesn't do what I want it to do.  I'm waiting 
>>> for the Seeing Eye app to come out here in the UK.  When it does, Blind 
>>> Square will be off my phone.
>>> On 1 Sep 2013, at 16:32, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> $24?  I checked it via the "via app, and it still says $14, but maybe they 
>>>> haven't updated their info?
>>>> Either way, I still don't have the money for it yet, but wish I did, sense 
>>>> it sounds amazing.
>>>> On Sep 1, 2013, at 1:28 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Jessica, price is USD 24 for that fun but it's one time fee and updates 
>>>>> are free. Even that podcast was outdated since I have had 2 or 3 updates 
>>>>> after that, so now you have also possibility to use your Contacts lists, 
>>>>> read Foursquare specials and tips, leave tips and more. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Cool podcast, thanx for the info on that; wish I had the $14 to shell out 
>>>>> for it now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 12:27 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jessica, BlindSquare is designed for visually impaired, so it is very 
>>>>>> fluent to use. For example, there is just one search box where you type 
>>>>>> any search term. It will find places by name, address, your contacts by 
>>>>>> name, address or company, categories matching search term etc. From 
>>>>>> search results you have options like "make a phone call", "google it", 
>>>>>> "show restaurant menu", "simulate location" (you can "visit there" at 
>>>>>> home). You can also set alert distance for the place, so for example, if 
>>>>>> you simulated your destination at home and found nearest bus stop, you 
>>>>>> can set alert distance of 300 meters for that stop, so you will get 
>>>>>> alerted when you need to get off. There is also button to Plan a route. 
>>>>>> It will list you all navigation apps you have installed (Google Maps, 
>>>>>> TomTom, Navigon, Waze etc.) and when selected, you will have that 3rd 
>>>>>> party app running, destination is selected and you will get spoken 
>>>>>> turn-by-turn. BlindSquare will stay on background adding information 
>>>>>> about your address, intersections and nearby places while you go. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You will learn most of it's features by listening this podcast: 
>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users
>>>>>> Some more features: 
>>>>>> https://audioboo.fm/boos/1497058-blindsqare-news-podcast-1-for-release-1-43
>>>>>> Walking demo: 
>>>>>> https://audioboo.fm/boos/1555578-blindsquare-walking-demo-using-google-maps
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Jessica Moss 
>>>>>> <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Ok, I'm really confused here.  I've started trying to use google maps, 
>>>>>> for example, and have a love-hate relationship with it, considering the 
>>>>>> fact that I love the idea that unlike mapquest, the search feature as 
>>>>>> far as finding a location such as "pizza hut," is so much easier, 
>>>>>> however, I don't like the fact that you can't access your contact info 
>>>>>> like you can with map quest/apple maps, which is something I do really 
>>>>>> frequently.
>>>>>> Also, I've found that in a lot of cases, its acuracy can be really off 
>>>>>> when navigating, and was wondering if anyone else has ever had this 
>>>>>> issue.  Something else I was curious about, what's the difference 
>>>>>> between using blindsquare with an app like google maps, and just using 
>>>>>> google maps, for example, by itself?
>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I actually use GPS more for telling me streets and places than 
>>>>>>> directions. While it's certainly no substitute for a cane or guide dog 
>>>>>>> and good travel skills, for me it's just as important. I remember back 
>>>>>>> in 2009, this was when I was using way finder on a Nokia Symbian phone, 
>>>>>>> I had gone out for a nice long walk, on the way home, one of the 
>>>>>>> streets had an interesting curve in it and I found myself in a 
>>>>>>> different place than I expected. I probably would not have gotten back 
>>>>>>> on track had it not been for the GPS program, and it was kind of late 
>>>>>>> so there was no one around to ask. These days, having nearby explorer 
>>>>>>> on my android devices, and the sendero seeing eye app and blindsquare 
>>>>>>> on my iphone are good things for sure.
>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>> Wow, Cheree! what a story!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Glad you had friends you could call and that all worked out well! :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I love the fact that GPS apps are so prevalent on mobile platforms 
>>>>>>>> now. -And that so many of them are at least usable for us. It's very 
>>>>>>>> freeing when you think about it. :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In addition to assisting people you are with, they can go a long way 
>>>>>>>> to helping people get acquainted with their environments so that we 
>>>>>>>> can really get a better sense of our surroundings.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing and have a wonderful night!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Smiles,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cara :)
>>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The use of the GPS in a car could only have happened to somebody in a 
>>>>>>>> sit-com, but, trust me, it happened to my friends and me this 
>>>>>>>> afternoon.
>>>>>>>> A pair of apparently solid sandals that I wore to work completely 
>>>>>>>> broke down, leaving me the choice of walking in my nearly bare feet 
>>>>>>>> over questionably clear sidewalks and streets to get home.  I decided 
>>>>>>>> that would be a very risky plan and phoned a family I have known for 
>>>>>>>> some years with an emergency plea for transport or to borrow a pair of 
>>>>>>>> shoes.  All of the girls and their mother wear the same size shoe as I 
>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>> The mom, Carolyn, agreed to pick me up after my work day and drive me 
>>>>>>>> home and share a pair of shoes until I could step on to home turf and 
>>>>>>>> return them.
>>>>>>>> At about 17:25, long after I got outside in my nearly bare feet, they 
>>>>>>>> hadn't arrived.  Two phone calls determined that Carolyn had parked 
>>>>>>>> her SUV in one of those self-serve parking garages and walked several 
>>>>>>>> blocks to me.
>>>>>>>> When Carolyn and her daughter, Hannah, saw me outide my building, they 
>>>>>>>> simultaneously realized that they'd forgotten the loaner pair of shoes 
>>>>>>>> in their car.
>>>>>>>> Carolyn wore a double pair of socks and let me slip into her sneakers. 
>>>>>>>>  We carefully, for Carolyn's sake, wended our way to find the building 
>>>>>>>> and her SUV.
>>>>>>>> Once up the ramps and at the car, we all got inside, only to have 
>>>>>>>> Carolyn realize that her credit card was at home next to the laptop.  
>>>>>>>> This car park requires a credit card in order to open the exit gates.
>>>>>>>> We decided to use my card.  Carolyn took it to the machine, where, 
>>>>>>>> because of Braille labelling I affixed with the card number, etc, it 
>>>>>>>> promptly got well and truly jammed in the machine.  Naturally, it 
>>>>>>>> hadn't gotten to the stage to let us, or the ever-growing line of cars 
>>>>>>>> and driers out of the parking structure.
>>>>>>>> On the automatic card machine now jammed with my card is a keypad to 
>>>>>>>> use in case of problems.  Carolyn dialed and explained that a card had 
>>>>>>>> gotten jammed in the machine.
>>>>>>>> Several staff from the Embassy Suites to which the parking structure 
>>>>>>>> belonged, came out and could not get the card out.  Meanwhile, the 
>>>>>>>> drivers were making increasingly interesting suggestions about our 
>>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>> Finally, the hotel engineer came with a pair of needle-nose pliers and 
>>>>>>>> pulled the card out.
>>>>>>>> All and sundry breathed a really large sigh of relief and we all got 
>>>>>>>> free egress from there.
>>>>>>>> Not, for the GPS part.
>>>>>>>> Carolyn is not familiar with the city and I am not familiar with 
>>>>>>>> driver helps.  What a team.  So, I brought up WAZE, a navigation and 
>>>>>>>> traffic GPS that one of my former readers swears by.  Sure enough, 
>>>>>>>> after I set it up, I had to turn off VoiceOver to Carolyn's sighted 
>>>>>>>> daughter could read the directions to Carolyn.  WAZE is more 
>>>>>>>> accessible than it started out to be, but still is not blind friendly 
>>>>>>>> enough to use the way we would really like.  It's amazing for sighted 
>>>>>>>> users, however.
>>>>>>>> We found our way home beautifully.
>>>>>>>> If I actually learn how to use some of my GPS apps, I suspect I will 
>>>>>>>> have powerful tools in the palm of my hand.  I have Ariadne and Blind 
>>>>>>>> Square and they help more than hinder.  Maybe I'm making GPS progress, 
>>>>>>>> eh?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Cheree Heppe
>>>>>>>> T
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my IPhone 4S
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