Lots of things as I know the Seeing App is fully VI friendly as it will tell 
you what is in front and what is coming up next which Blind Square lacks.  I 
don't want to open ten apps to get what I need as opening one app is enough.  
On the bus even though I have not set a route it doesn't tell me where I am and 
I have almost missed my stop even though I've told it what to do.
On 1 Sep 2013, at 16:39, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What does it not do for you?
> On Sep 1, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> I've been using Blind Square for some time now and unfortunately, I don't 
>> think very much of it as it doesn't do what I want it to do.  I'm waiting 
>> for the Seeing Eye app to come out here in the UK.  When it does, Blind 
>> Square will be off my phone.
>> On 1 Sep 2013, at 16:32, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> $24?  I checked it via the "via app, and it still says $14, but maybe they 
>>> haven't updated their info?
>>> Either way, I still don't have the money for it yet, but wish I did, sense 
>>> it sounds amazing.
>>> On Sep 1, 2013, at 1:28 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Jessica, price is USD 24 for that fun but it's one time fee and updates 
>>>> are free. Even that podcast was outdated since I have had 2 or 3 updates 
>>>> after that, so now you have also possibility to use your Contacts lists, 
>>>> read Foursquare specials and tips, leave tips and more. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Cool podcast, thanx for the info on that; wish I had the $14 to shell out 
>>>> for it now.
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 12:27 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Jessica, BlindSquare is designed for visually impaired, so it is very 
>>>>> fluent to use. For example, there is just one search box where you type 
>>>>> any search term. It will find places by name, address, your contacts by 
>>>>> name, address or company, categories matching search term etc. From 
>>>>> search results you have options like "make a phone call", "google it", 
>>>>> "show restaurant menu", "simulate location" (you can "visit there" at 
>>>>> home). You can also set alert distance for the place, so for example, if 
>>>>> you simulated your destination at home and found nearest bus stop, you 
>>>>> can set alert distance of 300 meters for that stop, so you will get 
>>>>> alerted when you need to get off. There is also button to Plan a route. 
>>>>> It will list you all navigation apps you have installed (Google Maps, 
>>>>> TomTom, Navigon, Waze etc.) and when selected, you will have that 3rd 
>>>>> party app running, destination is selected and you will get spoken 
>>>>> turn-by-turn. BlindSquare will stay on background adding information 
>>>>> about your address, intersections and nearby places while you go. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You will learn most of it's features by listening this podcast: 
>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users
>>>>> Some more features: 
>>>>> https://audioboo.fm/boos/1497058-blindsqare-news-podcast-1-for-release-1-43
>>>>> Walking demo: 
>>>>> https://audioboo.fm/boos/1555578-blindsquare-walking-demo-using-google-maps
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Ok, I'm really confused here.  I've started trying to use google maps, 
>>>>> for example, and have a love-hate relationship with it, considering the 
>>>>> fact that I love the idea that unlike mapquest, the search feature as far 
>>>>> as finding a location such as "pizza hut," is so much easier, however, I 
>>>>> don't like the fact that you can't access your contact info like you can 
>>>>> with map quest/apple maps, which is something I do really frequently.
>>>>> Also, I've found that in a lot of cases, its acuracy can be really off 
>>>>> when navigating, and was wondering if anyone else has ever had this 
>>>>> issue.  Something else I was curious about, what's the difference between 
>>>>> using blindsquare with an app like google maps, and just using google 
>>>>> maps, for example, by itself?
>>>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I actually use GPS more for telling me streets and places than 
>>>>>> directions. While it's certainly no substitute for a cane or guide dog 
>>>>>> and good travel skills, for me it's just as important. I remember back 
>>>>>> in 2009, this was when I was using way finder on a Nokia Symbian phone, 
>>>>>> I had gone out for a nice long walk, on the way home, one of the streets 
>>>>>> had an interesting curve in it and I found myself in a different place 
>>>>>> than I expected. I probably would not have gotten back on track had it 
>>>>>> not been for the GPS program, and it was kind of late so there was no 
>>>>>> one around to ask. These days, having nearby explorer on my android 
>>>>>> devices, and the sendero seeing eye app and blindsquare on my iphone are 
>>>>>> good things for sure.
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> Wow, Cheree! what a story!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Glad you had friends you could call and that all worked out well! :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I love the fact that GPS apps are so prevalent on mobile platforms now. 
>>>>>>> -And that so many of them are at least usable for us. It's very freeing 
>>>>>>> when you think about it. :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In addition to assisting people you are with, they can go a long way to 
>>>>>>> helping people get acquainted with their environments so that we can 
>>>>>>> really get a better sense of our surroundings.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing and have a wonderful night!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Smiles,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cara :)
>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The use of the GPS in a car could only have happened to somebody in a 
>>>>>>> sit-com, but, trust me, it happened to my friends and me this afternoon.
>>>>>>> A pair of apparently solid sandals that I wore to work completely broke 
>>>>>>> down, leaving me the choice of walking in my nearly bare feet over 
>>>>>>> questionably clear sidewalks and streets to get home.  I decided that 
>>>>>>> would be a very risky plan and phoned a family I have known for some 
>>>>>>> years with an emergency plea for transport or to borrow a pair of 
>>>>>>> shoes.  All of the girls and their mother wear the same size shoe as I 
>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>> The mom, Carolyn, agreed to pick me up after my work day and drive me 
>>>>>>> home and share a pair of shoes until I could step on to home turf and 
>>>>>>> return them.
>>>>>>> At about 17:25, long after I got outside in my nearly bare feet, they 
>>>>>>> hadn't arrived.  Two phone calls determined that Carolyn had parked her 
>>>>>>> SUV in one of those self-serve parking garages and walked several 
>>>>>>> blocks to me.
>>>>>>> When Carolyn and her daughter, Hannah, saw me outide my building, they 
>>>>>>> simultaneously realized that they'd forgotten the loaner pair of shoes 
>>>>>>> in their car.
>>>>>>> Carolyn wore a double pair of socks and let me slip into her sneakers.  
>>>>>>> We carefully, for Carolyn's sake, wended our way to find the building 
>>>>>>> and her SUV.
>>>>>>> Once up the ramps and at the car, we all got inside, only to have 
>>>>>>> Carolyn realize that her credit card was at home next to the laptop.  
>>>>>>> This car park requires a credit card in order to open the exit gates.
>>>>>>> We decided to use my card.  Carolyn took it to the machine, where, 
>>>>>>> because of Braille labelling I affixed with the card number, etc, it 
>>>>>>> promptly got well and truly jammed in the machine.  Naturally, it 
>>>>>>> hadn't gotten to the stage to let us, or the ever-growing line of cars 
>>>>>>> and driers out of the parking structure.
>>>>>>> On the automatic card machine now jammed with my card is a keypad to 
>>>>>>> use in case of problems.  Carolyn dialed and explained that a card had 
>>>>>>> gotten jammed in the machine.
>>>>>>> Several staff from the Embassy Suites to which the parking structure 
>>>>>>> belonged, came out and could not get the card out.  Meanwhile, the 
>>>>>>> drivers were making increasingly interesting suggestions about our 
>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>> Finally, the hotel engineer came with a pair of needle-nose pliers and 
>>>>>>> pulled the card out.
>>>>>>> All and sundry breathed a really large sigh of relief and we all got 
>>>>>>> free egress from there.
>>>>>>> Not, for the GPS part.
>>>>>>> Carolyn is not familiar with the city and I am not familiar with driver 
>>>>>>> helps.  What a team.  So, I brought up WAZE, a navigation and traffic 
>>>>>>> GPS that one of my former readers swears by.  Sure enough, after I set 
>>>>>>> it up, I had to turn off VoiceOver to Carolyn's sighted daughter could 
>>>>>>> read the directions to Carolyn.  WAZE is more accessible than it 
>>>>>>> started out to be, but still is not blind friendly enough to use the 
>>>>>>> way we would really like.  It's amazing for sighted users, however.
>>>>>>> We found our way home beautifully.
>>>>>>> If I actually learn how to use some of my GPS apps, I suspect I will 
>>>>>>> have powerful tools in the palm of my hand.  I have Ariadne and Blind 
>>>>>>> Square and they help more than hinder.  Maybe I'm making GPS progress, 
>>>>>>> eh?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Cheree Heppe
>>>>>>> T
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my IPhone 4S
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