Great tip to know about ctrl+F3, I knew about the menu bar with ctrl+F2, and
the extras area with ctrl+F8, but not that one about the dock.
Chris.
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From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Scrolling the dock from a visual perspective
I'm sure it will be obvious - I've had sighted people use my mac before,
and, though it takes a bit, they get the hang of things very quickly. Apple
is good about providing visual cues that make it clear how something is
supposed to work; if there should be a handle to drag, I'm sure it would
appear if, as you said, you had more in your dock. I'm not sure, but I
thought I heard somewhere that everything fits into the dock, shrinking as
necessary. Once you mouse over an item, it enlarges, but I am thinking
everything fits on one screen. I could be wrong, though.
I just want to add that, vo or not, ctrl-f3 (add function if necessary) will
focus you on the dock.
On May 3, 2013, at 5:39 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hopefully one of you can try to describe to me how to convey this concept.
I have a friend who is sighted who will be getting a mac really really
soon. They know little to nothing about the mac nor about OSX. Again,
Voiceover is not going to be a concern, as they are completely sighted.
Basically, I know a great annalogy that I'm gonna use to explain to her
what the dock is, and how it is sort of ish, similar to the windows task
bar, but here is the thing: With Voiceover, we can just hit vo+D to focus
on the dock, then can either use first letter navigation or can vo+right
arrow to move through the dock. I'm stating vo+right arrow, provided
you're using default dock behavior of docking on the bottom of the screen.
Obviously, if you dock on the left or right, then you'd vo+up and down
arrow, but that won't be the case. For her, she's gonna leave it alone
going horizontally on the bottom of the screen just like usual. Anyway,
let's say she has so many icons in the dock that they won't all visually
fit on the screen at one time. I totally understand that with Voiceover
it'll automatically scroll as you vo+left and right arrow, but how does
she scroll the dock left and right with the mouse? Can she just hover
over the dock, then use her scroll wheel? I wouldn't think that would
work, being that the scroll wheel is normally for scrolling virtically,
isn't it? She's not getting a trackpad or the like, it's just gonna be a
real real basic el cheapo little 10 dollar two button USB optical mouse
with a scroll wheel. Nothing fancy. I also considered dragging and
dropping, but I don't think so. That would only let her rearrange the
items on the dock. I had her try doing it on my system, but she said I
don't have enough in my dock to where it's running off the screen. She
thought normally, there would be a little handle she could grab with the
mouse to move it back and forth, but she said she didn't see it, as I
didn't have enough there in the first place.
I'm just wonderring if anyone knows how a person who can see would scroll
the dock left and right to fit and show more or less icons as needed. I
know you can change the size of the dock icons, but that doesn't answer my
question. We don't wanna do that. We want to leave as much alone, so she
can get used to things. Then, as she gets more comfortable, I'll help her
tweek things more to her specific liking.
Chris.
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