And I learn even more. <grin> Danny:
On 21/01/2013, at 2:32 PM, Lisette Wesseling <lisettewessel...@gmail.com> wrote: > When you press the power button, you can then press the hot keys; s for shut > down, r for restart, and something else for sleep I can't remember. No > command modifier key needed here. > > On 21/01/2013, at 4:21 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Not just that. When you push the power button you get the dialog with >> buttons for sleep, restart, shut down, and so forth. Do these have hotkdys >> vo simply can't see? >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:17 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: >> >>> I've not found the hot keys yet. I understand now what you are asking now >>> if you close something before you finish it. >>> >>> On 21 Jan 2013, at 03:12 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Saving was an example. Take, for instance, an email, When you close an >>>> email without sending it, you are presented with a dialog with three >>>> buttons to save a draft, don't save, or cancel. What I wonder is if this >>>> and other dialogs all have hotkeys for the different buttons? I know >>>> applications have hotkeys through menu items, but dialogs, by definition, >>>> have no menus and therefore no menu items to bind to hotkeys. >>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You don't have a save button on the Mac. Once you have done something, >>>>> just close the window and it's there for you next time. I prefer that to >>>>> be honest. >>>>> >>>>> On 21 Jan 2013, at 01:28 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> I was reading through some of Apple's developer documentation and I >>>>>> stumbled across a way to assign hotkeys to buttons in dialogs. For >>>>>> instance, if a dialog comes up asking you to "save", "don't save", or >>>>>> "cancel", you might hit cmd-d to activate "don't save". This is similar >>>>>> to Windows' scheme of letting you press alt with a key to activate a >>>>>> button in most dialogs. Ever since I started using the mac, the absence >>>>>> of these access keys has bugged me, as they are such time-savers, >>>>>> particularly in dialogs with a lot of buttons to tab or vo-arrow >>>>>> through. However, having discovered that it is possible, at least >>>>>> programmatically, to implement access keys, I have to wonder if these >>>>>> keys are available, but simply not announced by Voiceover? Is there a >>>>>> setting that will let vo speak the keys, much like NVDA or Jaws on >>>>>> Windows will say something like "save button, alt plus s"? Or is the >>>>>> case simply that, while access keys are possible, no one uses them? >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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