I wonder, then, why vo does not report these? My understanding from the developer documentation is that a single key can indeed be used, and that modifiers like command are optional. So, if these keys are set programmatically, that should be something vo reports to the user. I'm off to write to Apple accessibility about this. On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:32 PM, Lisette Wesseling <lisettewessel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When you press the power button, you can then press the hot keys; s for shut > down, r for restart, and something else for sleep I can't remember. No > command modifier key needed here. > > On 21/01/2013, at 4:21 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Not just that. When you push the power button you get the dialog with >> buttons for sleep, restart, shut down, and so forth. Do these have hotkdys >> vo simply can't see? >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:17 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: >> >>> I've not found the hot keys yet. I understand now what you are asking now >>> if you close something before you finish it. >>> >>> On 21 Jan 2013, at 03:12 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Saving was an example. Take, for instance, an email, When you close an >>>> email without sending it, you are presented with a dialog with three >>>> buttons to save a draft, don't save, or cancel. What I wonder is if this >>>> and other dialogs all have hotkeys for the different buttons? I know >>>> applications have hotkeys through menu items, but dialogs, by definition, >>>> have no menus and therefore no menu items to bind to hotkeys. >>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You don't have a save button on the Mac. Once you have done something, >>>>> just close the window and it's there for you next time. I prefer that to >>>>> be honest. >>>>> >>>>> On 21 Jan 2013, at 01:28 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> I was reading through some of Apple's developer documentation and I >>>>>> stumbled across a way to assign hotkeys to buttons in dialogs. For >>>>>> instance, if a dialog comes up asking you to "save", "don't save", or >>>>>> "cancel", you might hit cmd-d to activate "don't save". This is similar >>>>>> to Windows' scheme of letting you press alt with a key to activate a >>>>>> button in most dialogs. Ever since I started using the mac, the absence >>>>>> of these access keys has bugged me, as they are such time-savers, >>>>>> particularly in dialogs with a lot of buttons to tab or vo-arrow >>>>>> through. However, having discovered that it is possible, at least >>>>>> programmatically, to implement access keys, I have to wonder if these >>>>>> keys are available, but simply not announced by Voiceover? Is there a >>>>>> setting that will let vo speak the keys, much like NVDA or Jaws on >>>>>> Windows will say something like "save button, alt plus s"? Or is the >>>>>> case simply that, while access keys are possible, no one uses them? >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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