>From memory, SF on PC could scrub but I could be wrong. Interesting to know if 
>it can on Mac though.

Danny;

On 13/01/2013, at 7:57 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:

> Ah, well, in that case, Amadeus Pro cannot do this:  at least, I don't 
> believe it can.
> 
> Still considering Sound Forge for Mac but before I pay my $279.90 or so, I 
> would like to know more about the various points I raised last night.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Danny Noonan <da...@familynoonan.net> wrote:
> 
>> Ok, 2 points. 1, you can play a file and then move forward and backward by 1 
>> second with right and left arrow. This technically isn't scrubbing as far as 
>> I understand the concept. Think of a mode where if you press an arrow the 
>> insertion point will move an amount described by the amount of zoom but also 
>> you will here the auto play at a faster or slower rate depending on how much 
>> zoom and or how far you arrow the audio of the file. You can here the audio 
>> as you arrow  over it but when you take your finger off the arrow, the 
>> insert point stops moving and sound stops. IE, tape moves over the heads 
>> when you turn the real but as you stop, nothing is passing over the heads so 
>> the audio stops. . This way, you can tap an arrow to get just past a drum 
>> beat, the hard consonant of a word or breath after the word etc. It's a very 
>> effective and quick way to do by ear editing with out having to listen to 
>> the selection over and over as you fine tune start and end points of a 
>> selection.
>> 
>> Hope this makes sense and if Amadeus can't do this, I truly hope they 
>> implement it in the future as it's such a powerful editing tool, esp for the 
>> blind IMO.
>> 
>> Danny:
>>  
>> On 13/01/2013, at 6:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, if that's the way it was for me, yes, it would indeed be quite 
>>> tiedous and cumbersum.  What I am telling you, however, is that, on my Mac, 
>>> all I need to do is press the left and right arrow keys-bear in mind that 
>>> quick nav must be off for this to work-and the file  scrubs so I know 
>>> instantly where I am every second.  Now, I get to a point where I want to 
>>> drop something in or take something out.  Well, I just press space to stop 
>>> the playback head, then, rout the insertion point to that spot and do what 
>>> ever it is I intend.  It's always been that way for me.  Seems to me 
>>> there's something different between your setup and mine then-for you 
>>> see-scrubbing in the way I have described has always worked for me.  I do 
>>> seem to recall you've always had that issue though.  Perhaps if you have 
>>> quick nav on, you might wish to turn it off.  IF that's not the case, you 
>>> might need to get rid of your Amadeus Pro system prefs file and start over. 
>>>  Perhaps we need to go over my settings on Skype sometime so that we can 
>>> compare yours and mine to see if we can figure out why you cannot scrub and 
>>> I can.
>>> 
>>> Very odd indeed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> What i mean is as you point out, going back and forth in a file and hear 
>>>> as i go where i am, much like an old tape recorder with cue and review 
>>>> functions. I haven't found a way of doing this in Amadeus Pro, i had to 
>>>> first move with the arrow keys than press play and listen and then press 
>>>> stop and continue moving a little bit then press play and listen and 
>>>> then... well you get my drift, quite tedious and cumbersome in my opinion.
>>>> /Krister
>>>> 
>>>> 12 jan 2013 kl. 15:30 skrev Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> What do you mean?  Do you mean going back and forth through a file and 
>>>>> hearing where you are?  IF that's what you mean, I can do that in Amadeus 
>>>>> Pro.  I can edit a file just fine:  or, are we necessarily talking about 
>>>>> finding where things are in a file, cutting them out or putting something 
>>>>> in at a particular point?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 12, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's a thing i have missed with all editing apps on the Mac, the 
>>>>>> possibility to scrub and thereby precition editing on the Mac. There is 
>>>>>> a somewhat similar feature on Sound studio that sorta works and works 
>>>>>> quite well i'd say, but alas nothing of the kind in Amadeus as far as i 
>>>>>> know.
>>>>>> /Krister
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 12 jan 2013 kl. 10:13 skrev Danny Noonan <da...@familynoonan.net>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My brother is in the process of moving over to mac and has asked me 
>>>>>>> about a specific feature which as far as I know can't be done on 
>>>>>>> Amadeus but I'd like to make sure before I give him the final answer. 
>>>>>>> As he does lots of work producing voice overs, adds and interactive 
>>>>>>> phone systems and the like, he was asking if you can use Scrubbing in 
>>>>>>> Amadeus. Is it possible or even likely it would be added in the future? 
>>>>>>> This seems to be a sticking point for him in some ways as it is a very 
>>>>>>> effective way of editing quickly by ear.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for any info.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Danny:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> PS,
>>>>>>> sorry for the influx of traffic since my first message. It'll die down. 
>>>>>>> Promice. <smile>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> at8 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Quite correct Danny:  it was indeed Vagus LA that was the multitrack 
>>>>>>>> offering.  I do not ever recall that it was or could be made 
>>>>>>>> accessible with JAWS via clunky crashy windows-note the small w that 
>>>>>>>> is on purpose.  I understand that most of the basic functions can be 
>>>>>>>> done with Sound Forge on the Mac.  We're talking cutting, pasting, 
>>>>>>>> setting markers and so forth.  There remain-as I indicated before-some 
>>>>>>>> issues.  For example, when ever you go in to the record dialog, Voice 
>>>>>>>> Over tends to say "busy busy busy" a lot.  Also, working with regions 
>>>>>>>> seems not to be possible.  Also, recalling presets seems not to be 
>>>>>>>> possible either.  These are very nearly deal breakers for me:  
>>>>>>>> however, I ain't decided yet.  Frankly, I know that there are some 
>>>>>>>> blind Mac users who have sort of played with the demo version.  Kevin 
>>>>>>>> Reves, if you happen to be reading this, feel free to jump in here as 
>>>>>>>> I would like to know whether or not any of these matters have been 
>>>>>>>> addressed by Sony.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> AS for Amadeus Pro, I do use it a lot.  My big thing is 
>>>>>>>> remastering-taking the scratches and noise out of vinyl disks, hiss 
>>>>>>>> removal from analog cassette tapes and so on.  For this, I use a 
>>>>>>>> combination of Amadeus Pro with RX version 2.10 plugins.  RX is not 
>>>>>>>> totally accessible:  yet, it's accessible enough to let me do what I 
>>>>>>>> most need to do.  I wish I could spring for RX pro:  but, if I am 
>>>>>>>> going to move up to Sound Forge-which I understand makes use of the 
>>>>>>>> same digital processing algorithms as RX-well, RX pro will jus have to 
>>>>>>>> wait.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Danny Noonan <da...@familynoonan.net> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Ray.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I haven't yet looked into SF on mac although I did here it was out. 
>>>>>>>>> As a post production tool, it was pretty much unrivalled on pc so I'm 
>>>>>>>>> interested to see how it stacks up on the mac. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Right at the moment, I'm more into the multi-track recording aspects 
>>>>>>>>> and as far as I'm aware, it's a multi-channel recorder. I think it 
>>>>>>>>> was Vagus LA or something that was Sony's multi-track offering and 
>>>>>>>>> that was never accessible in my understanding.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you end up getting it, I'd be very interested in your views on it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the friendly welcome.
>>>>>>>>> Danny:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2013, at 2:14 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Danny, welcome.  Ray here.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have been considering Sound Forge for the Mac.  Yep, it's out now. 
>>>>>>>>>>  Quite accessible to from what I hear.  There remain a few issues:  
>>>>>>>>>> but, I'm hoping Sony clears those up.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>>>>>> 
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