Hi there! Well I do not use zoom but I remember someone saying a while ago that they wished the Mac version could give options to change colours so you could have yellow text on a blue back ground or something else! And as far as I know zoom text can do this [but I'm not sure] You only have black on white or white on black on the Mac!
Colin On 29 Nov 2012, at 21:29, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ok, I think that if what you say, Dhacker, is correct, then maybe we should > take screen-readers out of the equation entirely and concentrate on > magnification software. I've never seen a discussion comparing various > magnification apps on the PC versus the Mac. Thanks for the input. Most of > the folks I know who've used Zoom on the Mac have never used anything else. > > Teresa > > > Slow down; you'll get there faster. > > On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:13 PM, dhacker <dhac...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't think there's any reason to make that comparison, it's just not >> valid. >> >> Zoom on Mac works but it's not a sophisticated product. Voiceover works and >> it IS a sophisticated product. >> >> Ai Squared sees an opportunity to better Zoom related features. Also, the >> way Voiceover works may be fantastic (your mileage may vary) for blind users >> but for users who simply need reading "support" it's clear that there is an >> opportunity to build it. >> >> Put it this way, ZT Win does very well even though there is built in Zooming >> on Windows and sophisticated (JAWS, Windows Eyes) screen readers on the >> market as well as decent free ones (NVDA). >> >> >> >> On Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:00:43 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote: >> Yes, that's my point. If zoom on mac compared to zoom on windows is >> anything like vo compared to narrator, then, as you said, there's no >> comparison. Can some low-vision users chime in here? Maybe us totals >> are missing something? >> >> On 11/29/12, Teresa Cochran <vegaspip...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>> There's a bit of confusion here. I may get myself in trouble here, but I >>> will say this: the off-the-shelf accessibility on the Mac is notches more >>> complex than the off-the-shelf accessibility in Windows. I haven't used >>> Zoom >>> for the Mac, and don't know if it has the same magnification features as >>> ZoomText. Someone else can speak to that. However, if I were to choose >>> between Narrator for Windows and Voiceover for the Mac, there just isn't a >>> comparison, and I really wouldn't try. Voiceover winds hands-down. It's a >>> fact that there are more accessibility features in the Mac screen-reader >>> than for Narrator. Again, I can't speak to Zoom for Mac, so I don't know if >>> the parallel for magnification is valid. >>> >>> Teresa >>> >>> >>> Visualise whirled peas. >>> >>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Alex Hall <meh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm not a large print user at all, but it seems to me that saying >>>> windows already has zoom is like saying Narrator is already a screen >>>> reader. Does it read things on the screen? Sure, but comparing that to >>>> Voiceover is ridiculous. I hope AI Squared does well with this, I just >>>> don't know if it will happen. >>>> >>>> On 11/29/12, Doug Hacker <dha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Mike, >>>>> >>>>> The same is true on the Windows platform but Ai Squared does a very good >>>>> business there, no reason to think it would be any different on the Mac >>>>> side. Visually impaired Mac users want the same thing as their Windows >>>>> counterparts. >>>>> >>>>> - Better font smoothing >>>>> - Better tracking >>>>> - Cursor, pointer and focus enhancements >>>>> - Colour schemes >>>>> - More efficient reading tools for VI users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Should be interesting to see if that sells at all, the mac already >>>>>> includes zoom for magnification and voice over for reading, these can >>>>>> also >>>>>> be used at the same time. If people buy it, great, but they're taking a >>>>>> huge gamble. >>>>>> Original message: >>>>>>> Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a version >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + >>>>>>> Enhancements >>>>>>> only to be followed by reading functionality. >>>>>> >>>>>>> You can apply for group membership here: >>>>>> >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ztmac >>>>>> >>>>>>> Doug >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ>. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> meh...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >> meh...@gmail.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/0DK_UtzBfSkJ. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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