I don't think there's any reason to make that comparison, it's just not valid.
Zoom on Mac works but it's not a sophisticated product. Voiceover works and it IS a sophisticated product. Ai Squared sees an opportunity to better Zoom related features. Also, the way Voiceover works may be fantastic (your mileage may vary) for blind users but for users who simply need reading "support" it's clear that there is an opportunity to build it. Put it this way, ZT Win does very well even though there is built in Zooming on Windows and sophisticated (JAWS, Windows Eyes) screen readers on the market as well as decent free ones (NVDA). On Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:00:43 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote: > > Yes, that's my point. If zoom on mac compared to zoom on windows is > anything like vo compared to narrator, then, as you said, there's no > comparison. Can some low-vision users chime in here? Maybe us totals > are missing something? > > On 11/29/12, Teresa Cochran <vegaspip...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > > > There's a bit of confusion here. I may get myself in trouble here, but I > > will say this: the off-the-shelf accessibility on the Mac is notches > more > > complex than the off-the-shelf accessibility in Windows. I haven't used > Zoom > > for the Mac, and don't know if it has the same magnification features as > > ZoomText. Someone else can speak to that. However, if I were to choose > > between Narrator for Windows and Voiceover for the Mac, there just isn't > a > > comparison, and I really wouldn't try. Voiceover winds hands-down. It's > a > > fact that there are more accessibility features in the Mac screen-reader > > than for Narrator. Again, I can't speak to Zoom for Mac, so I don't know > if > > the parallel for magnification is valid. > > > > Teresa > > > > > > Visualize whirled peas. > > > > On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Alex Hall <meh...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > > > >> I'm not a large print user at all, but it seems to me that saying > >> windows already has zoom is like saying Narrator is already a screen > >> reader. Does it read things on the screen? Sure, but comparing that to > >> Voiceover is ridiculous. I hope AI Squared does well with this, I just > >> don't know if it will happen. > >> > >> On 11/29/12, Doug Hacker <dha...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: > >>> Mike, > >>> > >>> The same is true on the Windows platform but Ai Squared does a very > good > >>> business there, no reason to think it would be any different on the > Mac > >>> side. Visually impaired Mac users want the same thing as their Windows > >>> counterparts. > >>> > >>> - Better font smoothing > >>> - Better tracking > >>> - Cursor, pointer and focus enhancements > >>> - Color schemes > >>> - More efficient reading tools for VI users > >>> > >>> > >>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net<javascript:>> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Should be interesting to see if that sells at all, the mac already > >>>> includes zoom for magnification and voice over for reading, these can > >>>> also > >>>> be used at the same time. If people buy it, great, but they're taking > a > >>>> huge gamble. > >>>> Original message: > >>>>> Just to let everyone know, Ai Squared is close to releasing a > version > >>>>> of > >>>>> ZoomText for the Mac. First release will be Magnification + > >>>>> Enhancements > >>>>> only to be followed by reading functionality. > >>>> > >>>>> You can apply for group membership here: > >>>> > >>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ztmac > >>>> > >>>>> Doug > >>>>> -- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> Groups > >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ > >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/WZ_yEmqhhbgJ>. > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >>>>> macvisi...@googlegroups.com<javascript:>. > > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>> macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > >>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups > >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to > >>>> macvisi...@googlegroups.com<javascript:>. > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to > >>> macvisi...@googlegroups.com<javascript:>. > > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Have a great day, > >> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) > >> meh...@gmail.com <javascript:> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to > >> macvisi...@googlegroups.com<javascript:>. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > macvisi...@googlegroups.com<javascript:>. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from GMail website) > meh...@gmail.com <javascript:> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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