Hi,

I read them as HTML in Safari on my Mac.  Remember, the key is to add them to 
your bookshelf via favorites.  Unless you do that, you can only see a teaser 
for each chapter @ a time.

Hope this helps,

CJ


On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote:

> Cheree Heppe here:
> 
> I tried them because my agency is offering the books as  enrichment and 
> career enhancement materials.
> 
> I had no luck reading those books on an IOS device.  Either I got it really 
> wrong or they aren't accessible to any significant degree.
> 
> Whatdid you say was your work-around?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Cheree Heppe
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "CJ Daniel" <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 20:10
> Subject: Re: Safari Books Online
> 
> 
> Paul,
> 
> I think it is www.safaribooksonline.com.  Or, it might be 
> www.safaribooks.com.  Anyway, they've got a 10-day free trial.  After that, 
> the basic subscription is $19 a month.  That might seem a bit expensive, but 
> I love the access to so much technical information.
> 
> There are several formats available.  I've had the most success with their 
> HTML.  You search for titles, add the one you want to your bookshelf, open it 
> & move through the table of contents, & jump to the web content for each 
> chapter.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> CJ
> 
> 
> On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> wrote:
> 
>> I'm also interested in learning CoCo. What is the URL for Safari Books 
>> Online? What formats does Safari use for the books? Thanks so much.
>> 
>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 3:15 PM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Download Xcode from the app store.  It's a complete IDE for the Mac, which 
>>> is completely free.  And, based on preliminary usage, it works well with 
>>> VoiceOver.  
>>> 
>>> There are free online tutorials available for learning to code, using coco, 
>>> C++, etc.  However, the best bet seems to be signing up for a subscription 
>>> to Safari Books Online.  They've got a massive collection of technical 
>>> books for Mac, Windows, Etc, Etc.  There are various books on the subject 
>>> of Xcode.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> CJ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>> <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> HI all (and particularly Esther, as I have a feeling you may hold the 
>>>> answers to these questions),
>>>> 
>>>> I'd like to try and understand a little about basic programming on the 
>>>> Mac. I'd like to see if I could develop some very simple little apps. I 
>>>> would, of course, want them to be accessible with VoiceOver. In fact, this 
>>>> would be my top priority.
>>>> 
>>>> I've heard that programming in the Mac's native cocoa language is best in 
>>>> terms of VoiceOver accessibility.
>>>> 
>>>> So, my questions are:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Does anyone know of a good resource for learning the basics of cocoa, 
>>>> particularly any that provide a VO accessibility point of view?
>>>> and
>>>> 2. Are there any apps that can be used to develop apps in cocoa which are 
>>>> accessible with VoiceOver?
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks for any help.
>>>> 
>>>> Nic
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