Eric, In the jaws settings manager check the setting: keyboard -> Jaws key for laptop layout Set this to "insert" was "capslock" for me previously.
Once that was done everything worked as expected. Kind regards Bart Eric Caron <ecar...@comcast.net> writes: > Hi Bart and Rodney, > > You folks are moving way ahead of me! I'm loving the keyboard changes > but I'm still learning as I go. The Mac side is rock solid but the VM side > though working great has additional complications. > > Bart can you explain what setting it was you changed in JAWS in the VM to get > the caps lock to function the way you wanted? I'd like to try that as well. > > Eric Caron > On Sep 9, 2012, at 11:03 PM, "Bart Bunting" <b...@bunting.net.au> wrote: > >> Rodney, >> >> Appears you are correct. I had use capslock as jaws key set in the jaws >> settings, changed to insert and all works as expected now. >> >> Cheers! >> Bart >> Kind regards >> >> Rodney Haynie <rodney.hay...@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> Bart, >>> Sounds like you are getting the Insert key instead of the Caps Lock key >>> for Jaws. You already know in laptop keyboard mode, that the Insert key and >>> Caps Lock key are treated differently. So of what you wrote, it sounds like >>> the same thing I would get if I were holding the Insert key down. >>> >>> For example: CapsLock H and Insert H are two different commands for JAWS in >>> laptop keyboard mode. >>> >>> I use bootcamp, so I can not test any of this for you. >>> >>> HTH. >>> Rodney >>> >>> On Sep 9, 2012, at 9:36 PM, "Bart Bunting" <b...@bunting.net.au> wrote: >>> >>>> Eric, >>>> >>>> Interestingly this almost works perfectly but not quite in fusion. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong. >>>> >>>> I'm seeing the following: >>>> - VO remap to capslock works fine. >>>> - Jaws is set to laptop layout in fusion >>>> - some commands work well e.g. capslock t to read title capslock f12 to >>>> read time etc. >>>> - Things that do not work are the capslock p for jaws cursor for example >>>> and caps semi for virtual cursor. >>>> >>>> Anyone else seeing this? Perhaps I have an old setting hanging around >>>> but it would seam strange that it works for some keys and not others. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Bart >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Eric Caron <ecar...@comcast.net> writes: >>>> >>>>> hi Iona, buddy and others, >>>>> >>>>> Below is the permanent applevis.com link to the podcast for >>>>> KeyRemap4macbook. >>>>> >>>>> It is great to hear that some of you are fining this capability >>>>> helpful. Like Buddy I'm having to relearn muscle memory but in most >>>>> cases it is now natural for me to use the caps lock rather then the VO >>>>> keys. I now use commands like caps lock a and caps lock b a lot more >>>>> because they y are so much easier now. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Iona for pointing out that people need to press a check box in >>>>> PCKeyboardhack. For changing the Caps Lock I suspect i didn't notice >>>>> because once I checked it it remained checked even when I reinstalled it >>>>> to demonstrate for the podcast. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure why you downloaded the wrong PCKeyBoardhack. that doesn't >>>>> seem to have been a problem for others. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to those letting me know that you have found this useful. and >>>>> pleas keep the helpful tips coming. >>>>> >>>>> here's the link: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience >>>>> >>>>> Eric Caron >>>>> On Sep 9, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks so much for the procedure. IT worked perfectly for me. >>>>>> I would point out 2 things I had problems with. >>>>>> 1. On the download page I could not download the 8.0 PCKeyboard hack >>>>>> without sighted assistance. FOr some reason clicking on the link >>>>>> downloaded the 7.x. >>>>>> 2. In the PCKeyboard hack preferences changing 51 to 110 worked but one >>>>>> has to check the checkbox to enable the changing of caps lock. Pretty >>>>>> obvious but thought I'd point it out. >>>>>> >>>>>> Amazing improvement! >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Ioana >>>>>> >>>>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most >>>>>> online stores. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 8, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Eric Caron <ecar...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Listers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Below I've written out the steps needed to have the Voice Over Keys, >>>>>>> Control and Option, mapped to the caps lock key. This allows a Voice >>>>>>> over user to use caps lock with keys that might be difficult to reach >>>>>>> with the standard Control Option VO keys. In addition this new setting >>>>>>> now automatically creates Caps Lock as the modifier in a VM machine. >>>>>>> Finally the application creates a number pad on the standard keyboard >>>>>>> centered around the letter i. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a update to my earlier podcast. Takayama Fumihiko, the >>>>>>> developer of these applications has changed KeyRemapper4Macbook, making >>>>>>> it much easier to set up the computer to use the caps lock as the VO >>>>>>> keys. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Below I will write out the steps to complete the set up. >>>>>>> I will also include a link to a recently completed podcast that walks >>>>>>> through the new set up. this is much shorter then the previous podcast >>>>>>> as it is much easier to complete the steps. The podcast is 25 minutes >>>>>>> long but the last 4 minutes is for those who all ready use the >>>>>>> applications and want to update. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will be submitting this podcast and the written details to >>>>>>> applevis.com in the hope that they will post the update. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> Here are the steps needed to have a number pad added to your keyboard, >>>>>>> have caps lock work as a Voice Over Key, and have the Caps lock work as >>>>>>> the Jaws key or similar modifier in other screen readers used in VM >>>>>>> Fusion. >>>>>>> Go to the developer web site and download and install both >>>>>>> KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboardHack. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Be sure you restart your computer at the end of the install. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now go to System Preferences and to Keyboard. Change the behavior of >>>>>>> the Caps lock key to no action. >>>>>>> Now also in System Preferences under Other you will find both >>>>>>> PCKeyboardhack and Keyremap4Macbook. go to PCKeyboardhack and in the >>>>>>> settings tab in the first table interact on the field that currently >>>>>>> reads 51. Press enter after interacting, then change the number to >>>>>>> 110. This changes the caps lock key to the windows Application key. >>>>>>> then close the application >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Still in System Preferences and in the Other category go to >>>>>>> KeyRemap4Macbook. In the Change Key tab move over to the search field >>>>>>> and type in "blind voice over" without the quotes. then arrow right >>>>>>> over to the table. Interact and you should be on the correct setting. >>>>>>> arrow to the check box and select it. Close the application. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The new setting name is "Use Caps Lock as Voice Over key." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now if you press the caps lock key it will act as if you are pressing >>>>>>> the Control and Option keys. You have the original VO keys to use. as >>>>>>> this only changes the caps lock key. Also If you press the FN key and >>>>>>> letter i you will find it is a 5 and the rest of the number pad is >>>>>>> there. If you turn on num pad commander you can now use the Voice Over >>>>>>> controls with this number pad. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For VM Fusion users you have another bonus. The caps lock key will >>>>>>> now act as the Jaws key if you are using a VM Fusion machine with >>>>>>> windows. >>>>>>> The Keyremap4macbook application can be used instead of sharp keys or >>>>>>> the VM fusion key settings. they should not be used to try to control >>>>>>> the same keys at the same time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Keyremap4macbook needs to be version >>>>>>>>>> 7.8.17. >>>>>>> If you want to be sure you have that one here is the direct link. >>>>>>>>>> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/files/KeyRemap4MacBook-7.8.17.dmg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In VMware Fusion, the Help key will be interpreted as Insert Key. >>>>>>>>>> As this is often the screen reader modifier in Windows screen >>>>>>>>>> readers it will now work as the caps lock key. >>>>>>> for more information here is a helpful link. >>>>>>>>>> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?cmd=displayKC&externalId=1001675 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here are the steps to update KeyRemap4Macbook if you followed the >>>>>>> original podcast and used the Private XML. this is only for those who >>>>>>> want to add the VM Fusion option or simply want the newer application. >>>>>>> The Caps lock key on the Mac and the Num pad behavior will be the same >>>>>>> so you may not want to bother to update. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Those who did a new install as listed above all ready have the VM >>>>>>> Fusion option and the other capabilities. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If for some reason you want the Caps Lock Key to only work as the VO >>>>>>> keys and not be available in the VM machine then follow the directions >>>>>>> in the original podcast that includes the private xml. You will find >>>>>>> this at applevis.com and all needed text and links are in the Guides >>>>>>> section. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steps to update Keyremap4Macbook, for those who used the private xml. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> go into system Preferences and to Keyremap4macbook and uncheck the box >>>>>>> for Application key to Control Option. For me it is the first item in >>>>>>> the table when i interact. >>>>>>> Then close the application. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Download the new version 7.8.17 link above. >>>>>>> Be sure to restart the computer after you install. >>>>>>> Then do the same as above. >>>>>>> Go to KeyRemap4Macbook and in the search field enter "blind voice over" >>>>>>> then interact with the table and you are on the setting that needs to >>>>>>> be checked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thats it. >>>>>>> Please remember this is donation supported. You will find the donation >>>>>>> link at the same location you downloaded the applications. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Below is the link to the new podcast. that walks through these steps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eric Caron >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/KeyRemap4MacbookUpdate.mp3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> Bart >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Bart >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> Bart >> -- >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> Bart >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Bart -- Kind regards Bart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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