Hi,

I did it in the discribbed way and it works. Unfortunately it works ruffly just 
once out of five. So it might be good if Apple tried to make drag and drop via 
VO + komma and VO + period reliable.

Jürgen
Am 19.08.2012 um 12:36 schrieb Andrew Lamanche <andrew.laman...@gmail.com>:

> Teresa, i have made it work with one finger only with trackpad commander off. 
> My cursors are set to follow each other, and all I do is route the mouse 
> pointer to voiceover cursor. You don't have to interact, just make sure your 
> mouse is on the milbox you wish to remove. Double-check with vo+f5 and 
> Voiceover should tell you that it is indeed positioned on a give mailbox.
> 
> Andrew
> On 19 Aug 2012, at 00:17, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> How odd. I have succeeded in dragging with three fingers with the trackpad 
>> commander off, but when I turn it on and try pressing down with one finger, 
>> there is no noise, and when I drag, nothing happens. Does VO cursor have to 
>> interact with the mouse somehow? I have it set to "ignore" at the moment, 
>> and I do route the mouse pointer before trying the drag.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> On Aug 18, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Do you have trackpad commander turned off?
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Aug 18, 2012, at 4:16 PM, "Bill Holton" <bill32...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am also having trouble getting this done.  When I hold my finger down, I
>>>> have the mouse routed to the VO cursor, I get a dull click that repeats
>>>> itself every few seconds, but it doesn't seem to do anything when I move my
>>>> finger dedown and off the magic trackpad.
>>>> Must be doing something wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> BILL HOLTON
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:25 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Customising favourites bar in Mountain Lion
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> You will hear a click if your using trackpad commander and Voiceover sound
>>>> FX is turned on.  That might be what he was referring to.
>>>> 
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Andrew for your response.  The only thing I'd add is that the
>>>> "Click" is not anything you hear out of your speakers, there is just sort 
>>>> of
>>>> a click as you press firmly down on the Trackpad so that you know you have
>>>> the button pressed.  Sometimes you'll hear a minor click sound but it's 
>>>> more
>>>> of a feeling thing.  It's the same on the Magic Trackpad as on a laptop
>>>> Trackpad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2012-08-16, at 12:27 AM, Andrew Lamanche <andrew.laman...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Iona,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I understand from Tim's post that the click happens only on magic
>>>> trackpad. In my case, I have accomplished the task on a macbook air with
>>>> touch pad. I had to turn the trackpad commander off with vo+left turn of 
>>>> the
>>>> rotor and then I would position the mouse with vo+command+f5 on the box I
>>>> want to remove, confirm my mouse position with vo+f5, and then would press
>>>> with one finger my trackpad somewhere at the top and while maintaining
>>>> pressure would slide my finger down. I then would hear a little puff sound
>>>> as if you were blowing a speck of dust away, and that would confirm to me
>>>> that the item was removed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>> On 15 Aug 2012, at 21:39, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi again,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sorry but I get no click  pressing down on the trackpad with commander
>>>> turned on or off. DOes the click always happen or only on certain items?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do you click anywhere on the trackpad? A  bit stumped.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> THanks for all your help!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ioana
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most
>>>> online stores.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You shouldn't need to tur the commander off although I usually have it
>>>> off as I accidentally make it do things with my wrists.  For the Magic
>>>> Trackpad, simply push on the Trackpad itself and you'll notice a click.
>>>> Make sure it is pressed down when dragging.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2012-08-15, at 10:54 AM, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> HOw do you use the trackpad to do this? 
>>>>>>>>> DO you have to turn trackpad commander off? I have tha majic trackpad
>>>> no buttons.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ioana
>>>>>>>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most
>>>> online stores.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Andrew Lamanche
>>>> <andrew.laman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Dear tim,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It's amazing: it works! Just removed two items.
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>>>> On 15 Aug 2012, at 16:37, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It means that VO's Drag and Drop will not work on that kind of item.
>>>> To remove things, I've just routed my mouse to the location by pressing
>>>> VO-cmd-f5 then using the Trackpad to press down and drag my finger to the
>>>> bottom of the Trackpad then letting go.  This effectively removes the item
>>>> from the Favourites bar.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2012-08-15, at 9:18 AM, Andrew Lamanche
>>>> <andrew.laman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been trying to customise my favourites bar in ML. I've
>>>> succeeded in dragging and dropping one of my mailboxes there but when 
>>>> trying
>>>> to remove "send" mailbox and one other mailbox which I had dragged into it
>>>> previously under Lion, I've received the following error message: "Mac &
>>>> Voiceover  is not draggable.  VoiceOver will not drag item that has press
>>>> action.". Does anyone know what it means?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew
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