Yep, that was the first thing I tried. Never hurts to ask, though. :) Donna On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, > > This is a pretty basic question but, I don't think I've seen it asked in this > thread, have you tried turning up the volume? Pressing f12 or, Function F12 > will raise the volume. I notices that the headphone and internal speaker > volumes are independent. I guess it might be possible one or the other got > turned down? I know, its a wild shot but, stranger things have happened. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: > >> Hi Ricardo, >> >> Yeah, I tried repairing permissions yesterday, and it didn't solve the >> problem. I do have my Mac set to display all user accounts. >> >> thanks, I'll look forward to hearing if you have any issues. This truly is >> strange. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Jul 28, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Donna, >>> >>> have you tried repairing permissions since you've upgraded to mountain >>> lion? I've just turned on manual login , and restarted my MBP. VO started >>> up right away and announced I was in a security edit field. I will monitor >>> this over the weekend to see if this problem pops up for me. BTW, do you >>> have your Mac set to display all user accounts or, do you need to enter >>> that manually? >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Shen, >>>> >>>> Thanks for trying so hard to help. I don't have an encrypted hard drive, >>>> and no, I'm not pressing the FN key at all. I may yet try a clean >>>> install, but since that's the only problem I'm having, I don't know if >>>> it's worth all that work. :) >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:02 AM, Shen <goalb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>> OK, just so we cover all possibilities. You don't have an encrypted hard >>>>> drive right? Because VoiceOver does not speak at the login screen with an >>>>> encrypted hard drive. >>>>> OK, let's assume you don't have that since this just happened to you >>>>> after installing Mount Lion. >>>>> I posted an email a few moments ago about the merits of a clean install >>>>> versus upgrade. I am out of ideas at the moment, but I am still >>>>> brainstorming for you. >>>>> I think your next step is probably taking the machine in and show it to >>>>> the Genius Bar. I assume it is a laptop. >>>>> Also, since you mentioned Dictation, I found out that by pressing the >>>>> function key twice, you enable Dictation. So hopefully you are not doing >>>>> that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Shen, >>>>>> >>>>>> When I'm logging in, no key presses work, not Command F5, and not the >>>>>> volume keys. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other thing that's weird is when I get logged in, VO first says >>>>>> "Dictation IM has no windows". I squirm around until I get out of that, >>>>>> and then end up in another window that says something like "System Core >>>>>> UI has no Windows." More squirming till I eventually get out of that. >>>>>> It's all very odd. And if I set login prefs to log in automatically, I >>>>>> have no issues, i.e. the Dictation And Core UI windows don't appear at >>>>>> all. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Shen <goalb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>>>> Not sure why this is happening to you. Then again, I have strange >>>>>>> things happen to my VoiceOver as well that I'm sure no one has >>>>>>> experienced. >>>>>>> Please do let me know what happens if you decide to call Apple >>>>>>> Accessibility or bring your machine into the Genius Bar. >>>>>>> Just out of curiosity, have you tried pressing Command-F5 at the login >>>>>>> screen to see if VoiceOver starts or not? >>>>>>> Let's say, that VoiceOver is running, but just isn't speaking. If you >>>>>>> press Command-F5, that will then turn it off. Assuming nothing else is >>>>>>> wrong, if you press Command-F5 again, it should come back on and you >>>>>>> should hear speech. >>>>>>> I know this is a pain in the butt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/27/12, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Matthew, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. I wrote to Apple >>>>>>>> Accessibility also, so I'll let you know if I hear anything. >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Matthew Campbell >>>>>>>> <wrestling.ch...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Donna. >>>>>>>>> I to am seeing this. In my case, it seems to work every so often. I >>>>>>>>> guess >>>>>>>>> it needs to be in the right mood to work properly. *Smile*. >>>>>>>>> I'm going to send a message to apple accessibility about this one and >>>>>>>>> I'll >>>>>>>>> report back on any feedback I get. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2012-07-27, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've waited a good couple of minutes. Also, when I interact and >>>>>>>>>> enter my >>>>>>>>>> password, I am able to log in. And I have done what you suggested. >>>>>>>>>> Still not getting VO at login. >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Shen <goalb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> How long are you waiting before realizing VoiceOver is not coming >>>>>>>>>>> on? Is >>>>>>>>>>> it possible the system is still booting up? >>>>>>>>>>> Also, just for giggles, unchecked the checkbox for starting >>>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver at >>>>>>>>>>> the login screen. Close the Preferences, open it again and check >>>>>>>>>>> the box >>>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>>>> I would do a complete shut down, then startup. >>>>>>>>>>> Hope that will help. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is checked. I've now set my Mac to log in automatically, >>>>>>>>>>>> but I >>>>>>>>>>>> hope that isn't the only long-term solution. >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>>>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you sure that you have voiceover in your login items system >>>>>>>>>>>>> prefs >>>>>>>>>>>>> paine under users set to read at the log on screen? What if you >>>>>>>>>>>>> hit >>>>>>>>>>>>> command+F5 to turn it on manually? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If that doesn't work, try fn+Command+F5, provided you have an fn >>>>>>>>>>>>> key. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Goodin" >>>>>>>>>>>>> <doniado...@me.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:33 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: first possible bug in ML >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I think I've found my first bug with ML. I no longer have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> speech during the log-in process. To test this, shut down your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and reboot. You can still log in, but you will have no speech >>>>>>>>>>>>>> while >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are doing it. 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