Hi Ricardo, Yeah, I tried repairing permissions yesterday, and it didn't solve the problem. I do have my Mac set to display all user accounts.
thanks, I'll look forward to hearing if you have any issues. This truly is strange. Cheers, Donna On Jul 28, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Donna, > > have you tried repairing permissions since you've upgraded to mountain lion? > I've just turned on manual login , and restarted my MBP. VO started up right > away and announced I was in a security edit field. I will monitor this over > the weekend to see if this problem pops up for me. BTW, do you have your Mac > set to display all user accounts or, do you need to enter that manually? > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: > >> Hi Shen, >> >> Thanks for trying so hard to help. I don't have an encrypted hard drive, >> and no, I'm not pressing the FN key at all. I may yet try a clean install, >> but since that's the only problem I'm having, I don't know if it's worth all >> that work. :) >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:02 AM, Shen <goalb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Donna, >>> OK, just so we cover all possibilities. You don't have an encrypted hard >>> drive right? Because VoiceOver does not speak at the login screen with an >>> encrypted hard drive. >>> OK, let's assume you don't have that since this just happened to you after >>> installing Mount Lion. >>> I posted an email a few moments ago about the merits of a clean install >>> versus upgrade. I am out of ideas at the moment, but I am still >>> brainstorming for you. >>> I think your next step is probably taking the machine in and show it to the >>> Genius Bar. I assume it is a laptop. >>> Also, since you mentioned Dictation, I found out that by pressing the >>> function key twice, you enable Dictation. So hopefully you are not doing >>> that. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Shen, >>>> >>>> When I'm logging in, no key presses work, not Command F5, and not the >>>> volume keys. >>>> >>>> The other thing that's weird is when I get logged in, VO first says >>>> "Dictation IM has no windows". I squirm around until I get out of that, >>>> and then end up in another window that says something like "System Core UI >>>> has no Windows." More squirming till I eventually get out of that. It's >>>> all very odd. And if I set login prefs to log in automatically, I have no >>>> issues, i.e. the Dictation And Core UI windows don't appear at all. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Shen <goalb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>> Not sure why this is happening to you. Then again, I have strange >>>>> things happen to my VoiceOver as well that I'm sure no one has >>>>> experienced. >>>>> Please do let me know what happens if you decide to call Apple >>>>> Accessibility or bring your machine into the Genius Bar. >>>>> Just out of curiosity, have you tried pressing Command-F5 at the login >>>>> screen to see if VoiceOver starts or not? >>>>> Let's say, that VoiceOver is running, but just isn't speaking. If you >>>>> press Command-F5, that will then turn it off. Assuming nothing else is >>>>> wrong, if you press Command-F5 again, it should come back on and you >>>>> should hear speech. >>>>> I know this is a pain in the butt. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/27/12, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Matthew, >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. I wrote to Apple >>>>>> Accessibility also, so I'll let you know if I hear anything. >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Matthew Campbell >>>>>> <wrestling.ch...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Donna. >>>>>>> I to am seeing this. In my case, it seems to work every so often. I >>>>>>> guess >>>>>>> it needs to be in the right mood to work properly. *Smile*. >>>>>>> I'm going to send a message to apple accessibility about this one and >>>>>>> I'll >>>>>>> report back on any feedback I get. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2012-07-27, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've waited a good couple of minutes. Also, when I interact and enter >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>> password, I am able to log in. And I have done what you suggested. >>>>>>>> Still not getting VO at login. >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Shen <goalb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How long are you waiting before realizing VoiceOver is not coming on? >>>>>>>>> Is >>>>>>>>> it possible the system is still booting up? >>>>>>>>> Also, just for giggles, unchecked the checkbox for starting VoiceOver >>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> the login screen. Close the Preferences, open it again and check the >>>>>>>>> box >>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>> I would do a complete shut down, then startup. >>>>>>>>> Hope that will help. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes it is checked. I've now set my Mac to log in automatically, but >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> hope that isn't the only long-term solution. >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you sure that you have voiceover in your login items system >>>>>>>>>>> prefs >>>>>>>>>>> paine under users set to read at the log on screen? What if you hit >>>>>>>>>>> command+F5 to turn it on manually? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If that doesn't work, try fn+Command+F5, provided you have an fn >>>>>>>>>>> key. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Goodin" >>>>>>>>>>> <doniado...@me.com> >>>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:33 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: first possible bug in ML >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I think I've found my first bug with ML. I no longer have >>>>>>>>>>>> speech during the log-in process. To test this, shut down your Mac >>>>>>>>>>>> and reboot. You can still log in, but you will have no speech while >>>>>>>>>>>> you are doing it. 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