Dear Harry and Simon,

Please allow me to make one correction here: You can get to the Verbosity Rotor 
by pressing Control-Option-v.

With best wishes,

Mike
  
On 9,Jul,2012, at 10:42 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote:

> Dear Harry,
> 
> Regarding speaking the attributes of the text you are reading, press 
> control+shift+v and you will find yourself in the dialogue box where yo you 
> can adjust various values for Voiceover. One of them is speak text 
> attributes. There are other useful functions of Voiceover you can change here 
> fairly quickly while working with documents. Press escape to get out of the 
> place. Have a good look.
> 
> Others will add to this no doubt. There's a work around tables in documents 
> which Ann Roberson uses successfully but I have not tried it as I have so far 
> had no use for it but it should work. It is not simple but for now, she has 
> been able to do it. You could try and search this group's archive to find her 
> posts. Or maybe she will kindly respond to your questions.
> 
> With best wishes
> 
> Simon
> On 9 Jul 2012, at 01:18, Harry Hogue wrote:
> 
>> What I mean with features is being able to tell things like centered text, 
>> different-colored text, tables (inserting them, etc), and I am just guessing 
>> here, but I imagine that putting in a table of contents or headers and 
>> footers wouldn't work too well, either.  I would love to see an in-depth 
>> podcast dealing with the real nitty gritty of Pages with VO.
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2012, at 5:48 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Harry,
>>> 
>>> As Simon said, track changes is a problem for VO users. We can see what 
>>> changes have been made but not where they are. When you interact with the 
>>> page, VO says "Page whatever, number of items". Anything over 3 items means 
>>> there are additional items such as text boxes on that page. You can 
>>> interact with each of them which is where you see the changes that have 
>>> been made. So you can find which page contains changes, but not where on 
>>> that page.
>>> 
>>> Could you explain your comment about formatting features not working that 
>>> well? Most things work fine for me.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8 Jul 2012, at 12:15, Harry Hogue wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Simon,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks very much.  This is a real pity, since track changes is a pretty 
>>>> important feature.  Of course, I've noticed that most of the formatting 
>>>> features in Pages don't really work that well, actually.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Harry
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