Good morning every one, This is my last post on this topic , yes keith , my last, and after, I will reply some privately. I'll thank you all for the discussion and the points where that strong to have a discussion but in global: a paid screenreader is idd not a good idea. It's because the built in screenreader the iOS-devices and MacBooks are accessible out of the box and yes, this is a great example food many other company's who makes electronic devices around the world. About the rules of Apple: osx has built in accessibility rules and the programmers of third party apps should follow this rules . This is true , the most stable option but not the fastest and easiest way. But one big remark: apple is not following their own rules in iWork's: the most accessible and complete office suite on the mac available for us. I hope they will bring out a update soon.
The other point about scripting: yes apple scripting should be at least even powerful as jaws scripting and probably, much more powerfull but not that easy for everyone. I should will pay for scripts that are made by others if they should solve some problems or create a workaround for it that's comfortable. I knew a (italian) site: http://www.universalaccess.it/ that was beginning with such thing but there seems not that much new since a long time (on the English page). :( Any other sites should be very welcome... and, the problems in pages and the icons in the status bar of third party programs seems confirmed by some of you. So, who which can also mail me privately on william.wind...@gmail.com because I think I won't reply on that message on the list. Kind regards and thx for the discussion. William Windels Op 25-jun.-2012, om 14:08 heeft William Windels het volgende geschreven: > Hello, > After working for more than 3 years with the mac , it's my personal > opinionthat more basic programs are accessible on windows then on the mac > platform. > > I find it more stable to work on the mac because of the integration of the > screenreader voiceover with the osx. > The fact that the hardware is also adapted for us by the trackpad and the > function-keys with the spoken values. > And of course the flexible way we can install , manage the system with > voiceover support everywhere. > > However, we can't e.g. configure dropbox with voiceover while this is > possible on windows, office programs like microsoft office and also iWork's > aren't fully accessible with lay-out tasks, in my opinion there are several > usability issues with the browsers on the mac, some ellements of the os , > like > Tables, on websites and on numbers and pages, are very difficult to navigate > e.g. you can't search for edit-fields on websites while they are in a table > and in pages, you can't work with tables on a comfortable way. > the icon's on the status bar, can't be reached on a normal way with > voiceover... > > My conclusion: a paid screenreader for the mac that makes program's > accessible with scripts (like screen readers on windows do), should be very > welcome I think. > With this kind of optional screenreader, blind users should be able to use > all the equivalents on the mac of their windows favorites. Perhaps it should > push apple to make their screenreader better on a faster speed. > > Why such screenreader doesn't exist yet? > I see 2 reasons for this: > 1. Apple should not be happy with this and the screenreader of apple should > have more possibilities to integrate with the os then the external > screenreader. > 2. Other communities don't see a reason to make a screenreader for the mac > while there is one built in. > If it should be the second reason, any people with accessibility frustrations > on the mac , should communicate this to other companies like gw micro, > freedom scientific, baum... > > Any opinions about this meanings should be very welcome. > kind regards, > William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
