Cheree Heppe here: At the risk of leaving one of those curt messages, Yes, I totally agree with this perspective Mark has put forward.
I want to get away from the third party gate keepers, not enable them further. Regards, Cheree Heppe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark BurningHawk Baxter" <markbaxte...@gmail.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:39 Subject: Re: is a paid screenreader for the mac a option? First: A very helpful way to work with tables, at least on web pages, is possible if you have a full-sized keyboard, by using NumPad Commander; it is possible to use the number keys to move up, down, left or right in a table by unit, so that you can get a much better sense of how things are laid out and why it makes sense that way. Similarly, all the other things you mentioned--Office, DropBox, etc.--have work-arounds that, while not precisely the same as Windows, work just fine. Third, if you want a "paid," screen-reader, just install VMWare or use Boot Camp and install Windows and Jaws or whatever you prefer on another partition. Best of both worlds. However, what distresses me most is your conclusion that paying someone else to design a screen-reader that would work better, simply because there's money involved. Apple has worked *VERY!* hard to make VoiceOver work while *NOT* replicating the mistakes and limitations of Windows. Developing an app that does what VO does is not only reinventing fire, the wheel *and* all of basic astronomy, it's downright insulting. I, for one, will NEVER pay for a screen-reader for the Mac when VoiceOver is not only free, but stands as a beachhead in terms of universal accessibility, which is what we should be shooting for in Mac, Windows, refrigerators, Cable TV boxes, department stores, etc. Paying someone else to make sure that something works right "for the blind," is something we should be striving very hard to get *AWAY* from, not reestablish. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
