Wow. Excuse my language, but when did this list turn into a pissing contest?
>From what I read of this thread, all she was asking for was a simple answer.
Unfortunately, I don't know said answer, so I never responded until reading
these last few drama-filled crapfests.
I do agree that Cara or another mod needs to step in, however. This is
getting way out of hand.



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 3:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without
confusing me with a pod cast?

thank you, I don't need, or want your attitude, or help at all.

I think the moderator should see this and I intend to nake sure he does.

Jenny
On May 5, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> FIrst let me tell you lady I am anything but lazy and I think a lot of
people have made a considerable amount of effort to help you on this list.
You know Jenny with that damned attitude you cannot possibly expect help.
FOr the love of God can't you at least indicate that you tried to find the
bloddy answer first!!!! THe way you ask all of your questions indicates to
me that you have not even attempted to look at the help files etc. You do
know how to use the search facilities on GOogle do you not? Do you know how
to use the help facilities in the application? You know some of your
questions are so confusing that it is not even clear what you are talking
about at times. I should know better than to even waste time encouraging you
to do the research because this is exactly the type of response I should
expect. You most definitely come across as though you want to be fed the
information just in the way you post your messages. No one minds helping
you, but at least demonstrate you have tried. As far as the podcast is
concerned I am truly unclear as to how you become more confused. You talk
about how it is not the way you learn, so then explain how you do learn. You
cannot expect folks on the list to know your learning style and sit down to
write mini tutorials with "step 1 open the application" etc. If that is what
you want then say so, otherwise how does anyone know how to feed you
information.
> So I guess I'll just be to lazy to lower myself to help you in the future
and your crappy attitude certainly took care of that.
> 
> Good luck, you're going to need it.
> 
> On May 5, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote:
> 
>> If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience
anyone with my question.
>> 
>> As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn
things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more
frustrated and confused than I started out.
>> 
>> If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is
this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers.
>> 
>> If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and
consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for
me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast.  
>> 
>> That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents
you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant
question.
>> 
>> Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable
answers to simple questions.
>> 
>> If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up.
>> 
>> Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my
simple question.
>> 
>> Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to
simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will
certainly leave my inbox.
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information
and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a
step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me
that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly  on your own and
just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and
encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried
finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast
someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app.
>>> Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just
give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are
being unfair to those who are providing you the resources.
>>> 
>>> On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are
for.  
>>>> 
>>>> I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a
reminder.  
>>>> 
>>>> I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I
thought I had other reminders.  I don't see any old ones though.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of
it I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too
advanced for me, or doesn't tell me what I need till my mind is so
overloaded that I can't absorb any more information.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, could someone just tell me in baby steps what all that is for
and if you have my number, just call if you want to.
>>>> 
>>>> Jenny
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