Jonathan, VO says messages table, and I just use arrow keys to move up and down the list. I hear everything when I just tab into the table. Hitting left and right arrows together turn Quick nave on and then off. Here's an interesting additional discovery. If I have two messages in a mailbox, all fields read properly on the first. If I down-arrow, I only hear one field. If I shift-tab back to the mailboxes table, then tab back to the messages table, I can hear all the fields for the second message. I tried this on a friend-s mac tonight. Until I had used her computer, she had only read mail in the inbox and everything read fine. She asked me to go look at something in her sent mail box. I did that and now her Mac behaves just like mine. Now I have two computers to fix. <shriek!> There is something happening which is caused by changing mailboxes in that table. I'm sure baffled. Thanks.
Veronica Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 On Apr 27, 2012, at 9:54 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > OK. Are you interacting with the message list? > Are you using arrow keys or arrow kes with VO? > Is the Subject in the Message list, but you are only hearing the from column? > > What happens when you hit left and right arrows at the same time twice? What > does VO say to you? > > Jon > > Jonathan C. Cohn > jonc...@cox.net > > > > On Apr 27, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote: > >> Quick nav is definitely off. Everything read just fine until I created a >> bunch of new mailboxes. When I select a new mailbox, and go back to the >> messages table, all fields are read for the first message, but not for any >> of the rest of the messages. I can VO-right arrow to the rest of the fields, >> but this is just so strange. If this were Window-eyes, I'd think that adding >> mailboxes took up room on the screen. I'm just clueless right now. <grin.> I >> await further ideas? >> Thanks. >> >> Veronica >> >> Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ >> Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at >> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com >> Veronica Elsea, Owner >> Laurel Creek Music Designs >> Santa Cruz, California >> Phone: 831-429-6407 >> >> On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:23 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >> >>> SOunds like you have quick nav on. Try turning it off and see if that is >>> what you want. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> Jonathan C. Cohn >>> jonc...@cox.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there! >>>> In the messages table, I can VO-right arrow, I can find subject, sender, >>>> etc. But before I created all of these other mailboxes, VO read all of the >>>> status items each time I'd arrow through the messages column. When I first >>>> open mail and it reads in my inbox, it read all of the fields. But when I >>>> changed to my Mac Visionaries mailbox, no go! I'm also noticing that mine >>>> says unread, image, blank, buddy, then sender and subject. A friend's mac >>>> does not say blank. Is this controlled by a say blank setting in VO? >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ >>>> Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at >>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com >>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner >>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs >>>> Santa Cruz, California >>>> Phone: 831-429-6407 >>>> >>>> On Apr 27, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've only had limitted exposure to classic view in Mail but from what >>>>> I remember, the subject, author, and date and whatever were in >>>>> separate cells of the message list table so while interacting with the >>>>> message table, try arrowing side to side in the table to see if you >>>>> can hear a column of subjects. Also if your mail is threaded and you >>>>> have it expanded, the subject might not show on the second and later >>>>> messages in that thread. >>>>> >>>>> In the new view, arrowing up and down the message list gives me all >>>>> that info in a single read for each entry. It also tells me if the >>>>> thread is collapsed or expanded and if unread. That's one reason I >>>>> wanted to stick to the newer view and now that I got the preview thing >>>>> turned off, it's all good. >>>>> >>>>> On 4/27/12, Veronica Elsea <veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com> wrote: >>>>>> P.S. I realized that when I choose the mailbox to explore in the >>>>>> mailboxes >>>>>> table, then tab to the messages table, for the first message, it will >>>>>> read >>>>>> subject and who it was from. But when I down arrow to the next message, >>>>>> all >>>>>> I hear is image, unread. >>>>>> Sorry about leaving out this detail. Thanks. >>>>>> Veronica >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 27, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi everyone! >>>>>>> In mail, using Lion, classic view, I just created a bunch of new >>>>>>> mailboxes >>>>>>> and then added rules which send all my list messages to the appropriate >>>>>>> mailboxes. That was easy and works like a charm. However, just one >>>>>>> snag. I >>>>>>> navigate with up and down arrow in the mailboxes table till I find >>>>>>> mailbox >>>>>>> which contains unread messages. Then I tab to the messages table. As I >>>>>>> up >>>>>>> and down arrow around, it says image, unread, but does not read who the >>>>>>> message is from or what the subject is. 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