Hi, In my case I turned it off to avoid messages I pass through to review with vo in list as read. It made things convusing to keep track of what i read or what I did not yet.
I just press enter on a conversation and it opens in new window. I am having problems though with deleting the messages individually in this case as they appear doubled or something of the sort. I end up reviewing them and deleting in message list after closing conversation window with command w. Would love to hear of a better way to delete them if any of you knows one. take care, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online stores. Sent from my phone On Apr 19, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Traci <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > Thank you for the directions, it was easy peasy. I just used the trackpad to > click the mouse. > > I'm coming to this topic a little late, so I have a couple questions. > > 1. What is the benefit of hiding the preview pain? > 2. If I decide to do this, what is the best way to read a email conversation? > Ya know, an email with 6 messages. > > Thanks for continuing my Mac learning. :) > Traci > > Sent by Macbook Air Mail > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: > >> Hi Esther and Buddy, >> >> I want to thank you both for the ideas for using mail in the newer >> "modern" view and being able to close up the message body pane. It >> works great for me now and the read/unread flags don't get changed by >> merely going up and down the message list anymore. I think mail on >> the Mac may actually become a pleasure to work with now. >> >> OK mutt, better step aside now. <smile> Oh, mutt is that other mail >> client I love so much:). >> >> On 4/16/12, Esther <mori...@mac.com> wrote: >>> Hi Ioana, >>> >>> If you're using the IOGear Bluetooth keyboard, I'm not sure how that works >>> on the splitters. (The "small" keyboard description was the give-away -- >>> everyone who recommends that keyboard for touch typing adds the comment, >>> "but I have small hands".) Yes, that keyboard has a num lock key in the >>> F-key row, just as my 12" PowerBook G4 laptop does. (I got this laptop when >>> I first joined the Macvisionaries list, back when I still used a dial-up >>> connection. It was my first Mac, and it still works.) And you can use that >>> laptop to type numpad style numbers with and embedded keyboard using the Fn >>> key plus the letters on the right side of the keyboard (in the numpad >>> region), just as I can on the PowerBook (in Tiger). I think you can activate >>> the numeric functions when paired to the Mac by pressing the Numlock key -- >>> which may be F6 -- without turning on NumPad Commander. But I don't think >>> the modified NumPad Commander keys will work on this, such as using the >>> Control key. I can't be sure, because I don't use this keyboard with my >>> laptop, and only checked out its pairing behavior to learn what it could do. >>> I'd have to use this in place of my Mac's laptop keyboard to check this >>> out. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: >>> >>>> Pretty good explanation Esther as usually. >>>> >>>> A few observations however.1. I have a small keyboard and activate numpad >>>> keys with fn +letter keys but you are right that I do have numpad condor >>>> on. >>>> 2. Control numpad 5 did not work for the vertical splitter on my mac mini. >>>> Neither did vo shift space. Heard sound of click but nothing else >>>> happened. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Ioana >>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online >>>> stores. >>>> >>>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Esther wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ioana, >>>>> >>>>> That's an "Oops!". I keep forgetting that the VoiceOver Getting Started >>>>> manual used to recommend that you should not turn on Mouse Keys if you >>>>> have NumPad Commander turned on. I only remember that from the Leopard >>>>> guide. You have a Mac Mini, and are using a full-sized keyboard with a >>>>> numpad. I'm used to using the laptop keyboard, so I only turn on NumPad >>>>> Commander when I want to attach a USB numpad or do fancy simulations of >>>>> numpad actions with the top row of number keys in combination with an >>>>> arrow key. (This will let you access the unmodified NumPad Commander >>>>> sequences for the same keys on the numeric keypad.) >>>>> >>>>> What happened when support for the embedded numeric keypad in laptops >>>>> went away in Leopard, I found I could use some of the keys by turning >>>>> MouseKeys on. But the side effect was that some of your control keys >>>>> (like the Command key, as I recall) don't work in VoiceOver any more, so >>>>> that is doubtless why they told us not to try using both NumPad Commander >>>>> and Mouse Keys simultaneously in Leopard. In later versions of OS X I >>>>> bet they simply disabled some of the functions if you have both modes >>>>> activated. >>>>> >>>>> Regardless of the "Oops!", people who have full keyboards with NumPad >>>>> Commander activated can use their numpad to click on the splitter for the >>>>> Preview pane in Mail by pressing Control+"5" in Snow Leopard and Lion. >>>>> The "5" is the key on the numpad. No need to turn on Mouse Keys. >>>>> >>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Esther >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> HI all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a strange behavior with Esther's procedure. I placed mouse pointer >>>>>> on vertical splitter, turned mouse keys on and when pressing I key just >>>>>> heard a ding. It worked when I performed the FN +i on my keyboard to get >>>>>> the numpad 5 but only after turning vo off. What ever works as they >>>>>> say. >>>>>> I also tried it with quicknav on or off in case the quicknav keys were >>>>>> interfering with mouse keys but nope. >>>>>> I a not even going to go there to try to get why this is. IF others are >>>>>> so inlined have fun puzzling it out. Smile. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most >>>>>> online stores. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Esther wrote: >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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