hey Becky, there are a lot of different ways to read braille, on the mac, using 
lion or snow leopard which I use at work, so it's a matter of personal 
preference. I use a refreshabraille on both my Ipad and now my mac, since it is 
interchangeable, but i have a focus 40 blue that I use on occasion that the 
state bought me for work, but I prefer the refreshabraille over that  because 
of its   size and the keyboard isn't as clunky  as on the   focus, but I 
digress. There are a  lot of  ways to translate files to read but  it won't 
read straight brf files, you have    to translate them into epub files that 
will    be recognized by Itunes if  you do it on an    Idevice or translated 
into text to read on the    desktop, but it can    be done. If you have   any 
questions about this let me     know as I am a     strong braillereader and    
was a little aggravated when I    went apple until I found a work-around.   
but, like I said, it's    all a matter of   personal preference as to what   

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 5, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Becky Knaub <becnc...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

> hi guys,
> I didn't ever have the lap top just the old apple 2 e and I just had to cary 
> the perkins from class to class in middle and high school until I went to 
> overbook. Then I had the computer and the braille window, I loved that 
> display even though it was big and the braille lite 40 which I really didn't 
> think was that great. I am really curious how you read BRF files as well, 
> what if you want to read them with braille and VO? What do you use for Mac 
> with Lion.
> 
> Becky and C
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 6:14 AM, Gigi wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys
>> It made me laugh to hear you guys talking about carrying those braille 
>> displays around, and the laptops. This is because, I used to carry around 
>> and Kappel Apple 2E in a backpack, together with the two disk drives. My dog 
>> and I used it to go zapping down Gaston Avenue carrying a backpack, that is 
>> I carried a backpack. I used to always carry around the tape-based person 
>> braille in a backpack too. We sure have come along way. I'm very glad I 
>> don't have to carry all that around these days.
>> 
>> To make this discussion of mine or related to our topic, I have a question 
>> concerning iOS 5.1 Enbrel's place. What is the best way to read DRF files? I 
>> seem to remember we had a discussion on this before, but I can't find that 
>> discussion. On the Mac, I use TextEdit if I need to read it on the computer. 
>> Then, I have to do a transformation to change all the Brille to lowercase. 
>> For some reason that I don't understand, all the BRF files I get display in 
>> all caps. in. It's no big deal to change it in TextEdit, but I wonder how 
>> that's handled on an iPad?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 8:57 PM, James Mannion <mannion...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anyone know for sure if the refreshabraille is currently working
>>> with IOS 5.1? I remember reading about some displays not currently
>>> working under 5.1 and can't remember which ones they were.
>>> 
>>> On 4/4/12, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried 
>>>> a
>>>> ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a
>>>> tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered
>>>> computer with the coal hopper? (grins)
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For
>>>> me, 40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra
>>>> weight.
>>>> 
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having
>>>>> something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at
>>>>> $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I
>>>>> gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth
>>>>> consideration.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a
>>>>>> Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille
>>>>>> display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my
>>>>>> iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I
>>>>>> am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute.
>>>>>> As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and
>>>>>> straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line
>>>>>> about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less
>>>>>> expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate
>>>>>> getting it. Thanks.
>>>>>> (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.)
>>>>>> 
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