You can get Apple products for 0 interest for 12 months if you apply for their credit card. On Mar 26, 2012, at 11:07 PM, Pam Mathers wrote:
> Hi Eric. I know lot of people who cannot afford Imac but can afford a > windows. A lot of blind people I know have window eyes or jaws. Some of > them get used ones and others can get them by putting so much money down a > month. You might have to go by way of windows for now which I understand is > just as good only different. > On Mar 26, 2012, at 5:39 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> Hi Eric, >> >> yep I completely agree with you and understand your plite. >> >> I was forced to close down the project due to two major factors. Lack of >> support regarding supply of equipment and a poorly run charities commission >> stating different rulings and then telling me that my project does not >> warrant Commission status, thus failing to grant registered numbers, etc. >> >> This project has helped a very small number of users (8 in all) and it's >> left me in a very serious situation which I've now resolved. >> >> The problem also exists wherever you are in the world. Funding for >> accessible equipment for the blind is non existant. Why? well from my years >> of experience in this matter, various charities set up conflicting >> guidelines and rulings which do not help the individual in need of the >> support. For over 12 years since I lost my sight completely, I had to apply >> for various grants. within 10 years, every grant (500+ in total) were >> rejected, all because of different factors by their own rulings, offerings >> of £100 to £250 towards a product and then not being able to apply to X >> amount of other charities (connected to the associated charity in question) >> due to ridiculous clauses. >> >> I use my iphone 3GS and macbook pro. the only reason I have these is through >> having to sell everything I owned including my old music gear from years ago >> to raise the funds for the kit needed, from there it's been a thing of >> taking on a few projects to raise cash for equipment I still have to rely on. >> >> internationally, we need to change the system and yes APPLE needs to help us >> out on this. They have developed products which openly and directly support >> blind and disabled users and yet we have to pay an absolute premium, as >> rightly said here, over 85% of blind people in the USA are out of work and >> cannot afford the equipment and services needed, the same here in the UK >> even though disability living allowance and other components aren't enough >> to cover costs of equipment. You're lucky if you get into a university to >> receive grants for equipment you need. In my case, through my education, the >> equipment I had to use failed me all the time, the wrong software, wrong >> hardware and operating systems which by their own admission were poorly >> managed and had huge issues. hence me taking on the matters in person and >> resolving them. a battle I don't want to entertain ever again. >> >> It's at this point where we as a nation of blind and visually impaired >> people make a stand and a change for the better. >> >> lew >> >> On 26 Mar 2012, at 10:22, Eric Oyen wrote: >> >>> I really wish there was a financing program for the blind when it comes to >>> mac hardware (laptops, desktops, iPad, iPhone). given that I (and a great >>> many others) am living on a disability income (more than 85% of the blind >>> in the US are), I find it nearly impossible to save up for any equipment. >>> Hell, I had to make my own Hackintosh and load it with a store purchased >>> copy of snow leopard. It cost me $30 for the OS and about $400 to assemble >>> the machine. at minimum, I would have to spend nearly twice that much for a >>> comparably equipped mac mini and almost $1500 or more for a reasonably >>> powerful macbook pro/air. given that I have to spend my money on >>> medications, rent and food, there is no way I can even save up for one at >>> all. >>> >>> there used to be a "free macs for the blind" charity in Great Britain, but >>> the person running that organization was forced to give it up as there were >>> too many problems involved. We need something like that here in North >>> America, but I just don't see that happening. I tried to query Apple about >>> doing something like this and was given the polite brush off (thats nice >>> kid, here is a soda. now go over in the corner.). hell, they have $115 >>> Billion in CASH laying around they are not using. they could earn >>> themselves a lot of good publicity if they offered some macs to the blind >>> at a vastly discounted rate. it would also give them an in to a market they >>> don't currently have. >>> >>> anyway, time for me to climb down off the soapbox. >>> >>> -eric >>> >>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:38 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >>> >>>> one thing that I can note that is not seeming to be mentioned is the fact >>>> that there ar certain Apps which are not available on iPhone / iPod Touch, >>>> yet, that are found on the iPad. >>>> >>>> The iPad from my prespective is purely for consumption, and I use it for >>>> news papers, which 4 of which are not found on the iPhone, and 5 are on >>>> the iPhone, but, only as reduced versions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Neil Barnfather >>>> >>>> Talks List Administrator >>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>>> >>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple >>>> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your >>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >>>> >>>> URL: - www.talknav.com >>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >>>> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >>>> >>>> On 24 Mar 2012, at 08:43, David Hole wrote: >>>> >>>>> hi folks. >>>>> I just wonder, and many here have asked, so I thought I'd ask you in >>>>> this group. >>>>> What's the benefit for blind people to have an iPad instead of an >>>>> iPhone? >>>>> I mean, as far as I can see, the difference is only the screen size... >>>>> Am I right? >>>>> Actually I'd like to have one myself, but I can't find any good >>>>> reasons to have it, since I have both an iPhone and a Mac. >>>>> Hope someone here can give me reasons to get one :p >>>>> Best regards David >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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