Right,  Its about getting money, not necessarily screwing blind people over.  
We just happen to be the major losers in the entire mess.  I never said it 
wasn't about money.  I just don't think its about our money.  Our, being blind 
and print impaired consumers.

Ricardo Walker
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On Mar 24, 2012, at 1:35 AM, David Tanner <david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, I guess I am not as convinced as you are.  The truth is it really is 
> all about the money, and rich publishers figure they aren't going to make 
> much money off of blind people anyway, so why should they give in because 
> they have the money and the control and they would just as soon keep it that 
> way.
> 
> If blind folks would tell Amazon that the blind are going to start a campeign 
> to publically advertise the lame way that they have bowed to the publishers 
> and that every attempt would be made to convince people not to buy from 
> Amazon until they changed their actions then maybe they might get somewhere.
> 
> But, I know a whole lot of blind people who complain about Kindell and go 
> right ahead and purchase all kinds of other things from Amazon.  So, if they 
> really want to get the point accross they had better be willing to stop 
> making any purchases from Amazon until it starts to hurt a little.  If you 
> tell them you want them to change then don't keep giving them any business 
> until they wise up and change Kindell.
> 
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 8:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Kindle App on iPhone
> 
> 
> lol,
> 
> I agree its stupid but, I doubt these people huddled up in a corner and said, 
> " lets figure out away to steel money from a population base which extremely 
> small, and has a 70% unemployment rate.  I just think their paranoid about 
> sighted people taking advantage of this, not how to make an extra buck off 
> blind folks.
> 
> JMO.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Mar 22, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:
> 
>> That's not quite true.  It's not because of copy right.  The truth is this.  
>> It's because of the Author's guild.  They don't want the blind to be able to 
>> read their books without extra costs.  Their twisted reasoning is that the 
>> text to speech technology will rob them of sales.  Every single organization 
>> of the blind is fighting this stupid infantile logic.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> so because of stupid drm copy write crap the blind can't read the ebooks?
>>> On 3/22/2012 6:30 PM, Esther wrote:
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>> 
>>>> There are a number of ebook apps that specifically disable VoiceOver's 
>>>> ability to access the content in order to preserve digital rights 
>>>> management.  This is also true if you try to use the Barnes & Noble Nook 
>>>> app, for example.  You'll notice that usually you can access everything 
>>>> except for the actual content of the text.  That's being blocked.  You can 
>>>> verify this by taking a screen capture, and sending the results to an OCR 
>>>> app like Prizmo or TextGrabber.  The OCR app will tell you what the 
>>>> contents are, but obviously you're not going to read the book by screen 
>>>> capturing every page and sending it to an OCR app.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to read another example of this viewpoint, that the ability of 
>>>> screen readers to access text would promote copyright violation, take a 
>>>> look at Greg Kearney's posted response from Fictionwise in the archives, 
>>>> sent in reply to his inquiry about ebook accessibility for their ebook 
>>>> reading app         just a few months after the iPhone 3GS was released 
>>>> with VoiceOver support:
>>>> • Fwd: Response for Support Ticket #102495
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg06200.html
>>>> Since this is the Mail Archive post, if you're reading on your computer, 
>>>> you can also use access key shortcuts of Control-N to read down the thread 
>>>> for other reader comments.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Esther
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Forget it.  It ain't gonna happen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It ain't accessible at all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>> 
>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I downloaded the Kindle app so I can read some of the books that my wife 
>>>>>> is reading.  I can't, however, figure out how to get it to work. Has 
>>>>>> anybody had success with the Kindle app?  Is it accessible?  Any tips?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It looks like, to me, that it is displaying images instead of rendering 
>>>>>> the text.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>> 
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