Can you ever say that again John! I'm with you all the way; as, I believe, most of us here are. I've been on my Mac for a mere three years; and yet, I feel it's an extention of my very self. I never felt that with clunky unstable crash my lap top all the time windows!
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Nov 23, 2011, at 1:22 PM, John Panarese wrote: > One of the major problems folks coming over from Windows have is they spend > too much time expecting the Mac to behave and BE like their Windows machine > as if they are just replacing one screen reader with another. This constant > expectation increases ones frustration and only harms the learning process. > > Unfortunately, it doesn't work this way, and the more you battle that > mindset, the less natural the Mac seems. The biggest thing I continually > recommend to people I train is to completely stop thinking Windows and their > Windows screen reader and to focus on learning OS X and VoiceOver. > > In six years now of having switched to the Mac, but still using Windows > just to remind myself what I am not missing, I can tell you first hand that > the Mac feels completely natural and I am so thankful for Apple every time I > fire up my Windows PC and deal with the nonsense of that backwards operating > system. > > The only task that I have found that I can't do as "well" from my Windows > days is mudding, but I can deal with that in Terminal. I don't mud as much > as I did, so I can tolerate not having a full fledged mud client. However, > it would be nice if one could be found that works with VoiceOver as well as > gmud or zmud does. > > Take Care > > John Panarese > jpanar...@gmail.com > > > > On Nov 23, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > >> I'd love for the mac to some day feel natural, but so far, most of the stuff >> I like doing just works better on the PC. I'm still not entirely impressed >> with text edit or pages for word processing; don't like that my fonts get >> changed, etc. I've tried atlantis, but unless I'm missing something, it's >> not a realistic mudding environment, so that's another reason the mac just >> isn't my primary goto computer. However, I do find myself using it a few >> times a week, if for no other reason than to ensure that its software is >> fully up-to-date. Itunes is starting to grow on me a little, which I suppose >> is a good thing, but I'm not sure I'll ever become a complete apple-head. On >> the bright side, I think I'm to the point where if, God forbid, something >> catastrophic happened to my PC, I could at least function with the mac until >> finances permitted for me to get the pc fixed. I think that using VM fusion >> or bootcamp would make me spend a lot more time on my macbook, but since I >> can't afford to buy windows for it, I'm just not to that point yet. >> So, I don't know if/when the mac will feel natural for me, but I have to say >> that I think I've come pretty far with it since buying it in May; am just >> not in love with it, if that makes sense. >> >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chad King >> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:54 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mac feel natural >> >> Traci, >> Indeed! It is an amazing experience. I'll put it this way. Use windows. But >> only if you *have* to. >> That's what I meant by its ok to use both. Because there were a couple of >> times where i just, 'didn't quite get it." >> Of course, i was also running Mac OS X Leopard at the time. Much has >> improved since then. >> >> Sent from my MBP >> >> On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Traci wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the replies. >>> >>> I think my biggest thing is surfing the net. Reading and researching is a >>> huge part of the computer experience for me, and it is slow going getting >>> use to surfing with VO and Mac. >>> >>> Maybe like you guys say, it'll take time. Hopefully it'll all feel natural >>> soon. There is so much I'm loving about the Mac. It is the best you tube >>> experience hands down! >>> >>> I'm prefering iTunes on the Mac as well. Lol, and so much more. >>> >>> Traci >>> Sent by Macbook Air Mail >>> >>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: >>> >>>> if it makes you feel any better, my friends that use windows tell me it is >>>> getting more and more like apple all the time. take care, max >>>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Traci wrote: >>>> >>>>> *Grin,* I thought that might be the popular response. I should put the >>>>> old laptop upstairs or something and force myself to use the Mac. The >>>>> funny thing is, every time I use the Mac, I enjoy the experience, it just >>>>> doesn't feel like second nature yet. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Traci >>>>> Sent by Macbook Air Mail >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Paul Mimms wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Most of us are more comfortable with what we have become familiar with >>>>>> using, therefore what is easier. You may find you just need to stop >>>>>> making the decision whether to use the MacBook or the PC and remove the >>>>>> PC from consideration. Make the MacBook the only computer you use and >>>>>> make it work for you just as you did with the PC at one time. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/23/2011 10:19 AM, Traci wrote: >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What is your advice on making the Mac experience feel natural? I'm >>>>>>> loving my Macbook Air, but I'm noticing I don't naturally go to it. >>>>>>> I'm still using my ancient windows laptop most of the time. It can be >>>>>>> 3 or 4 days, and I think I really should go on my Mac. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> :) I guess I want to get to the point, where it is odd to pick up the >>>>>>> windows laptop. Any good suggestions? 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