Hi Esther,

    If it is a situation where I cannot view the bookmark bar table, neither 
the VO j or table commands seem to work.  I can only see the main table that 
lists bookmarks bar, bookmarks menu, address book, etc.  Once I use Scott's 
suggestion to reveal the specific table like the list of bookmarks, then the 
table commands will work to go between both tables.

Take Care

John Panarese
jpanar...@gmail.com



On Nov 23, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Scott, Mary, John, and Others,
> 
> Can I ask whether you can navigate to the bookmarks table on the "Show all 
> Bookmarks" page with either VO-J or VO-Command-T?  If not, does either of 
> these two commands work when first click on/highlight the entry in the table 
> of folders?  (I'm running Snow Leopard, so I can't check this for Lion).
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Nov 23, 2011, at 08:08, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott,
>>  I know you wrote this to Mary, but I have to thank you as well.  I have 
>> been having this problem on my Mac Mini where the bookmarks table was not 
>> showing.  This does work, though it is annoying to have to do.  Thanks for 
>> the info.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 5:35 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> THis is a strange one, but here is the solution. SInce you already can get 
>>> to the table with the bookmarks etc. I won't cover that. So, once you have 
>>> selected the set of bookmarks from the table:
>>> 1. Navigate past the vertical splitter and the search field.
>>> 2. When you encounter the horizontal splitter interact with it and navigate 
>>> to the right. THe idea is to hear it say "Zero percent".
>>> 
>>> At this point Safari may go busy on you and my advice is to simply toggle 
>>> VO off/on and that should resolve the problem. Then you should be able to 
>>> find the table with the individual bookmarks. Unfortunately I have not 
>>> found a way to keep the table expanded, so you have to use this method 
>>> until someone can figure out how to fix the issue. :) Of course put a bug 
>>> in APple's ear at accessibil...@apple.com, so they know this is really 
>>> annoying.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 1:21 AM, Mary wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Today I was trying to find bookmarks to sites I needed to visit.  I 
>>>> selected "Show All Bookmarks" from the bookmarks menu.  Usually a table of 
>>>> all my folders shows up and to the right of that another table with the 
>>>> individual bookmarks that are in the folder I selected from the folders 
>>>> table.  today, for some reason, VoiceOver will only read the table with 
>>>> the folders.  the table with the individual bookmarks doesn't seem to be 
>>>> there.  I can choose a folder from the folders table, but I cannot find 
>>>> the individual bookmarks table. VoiceOver will not read it.  I didn't 
>>>> change anything.  It was working fine last night, but when I turned my Mac 
>>>> on this afternoon I had this problem.
>>>> 
>>>> Any help with this matter will be truly appreciated!
>>>> 
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
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