Paul E, I thought I had a computer braille listing. I used to. However, in all 
my computer changing in the last few years, apparently I lost it. Freedom 
Scientific used to put it in manuals, but I couldn't find it in the Jaws help. 

This week, I used my Mac to read and proofread some braille files. I did that 
in preparation for needing to do it or in preparation for a new system. I found 
that I got faster with the Mac doing this as I went along. 

Having to do that transformation is really not a problem. It took about thirty 
seconds. The file I was reading was done by a transcriber. So this afternoon, 
I'll call up a Web braille file and see if it would require the transformation 
to lower case. I suspect that notetakers like the PacMate and others are doing 
this transformation when you go from one type of file to the other. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Sep 28, 2011, at 1:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Gigi,
> Yes that's what I would like to do. American computer braille is what I am 
> used to, even though I am in Europe. But yes, I'd like to omit the control 
> characters for quicker reading, or I would like to have a good way to learn 
> them, so I don't see things I don't understand. Is there an overview 
> somewhere, where you can see what each character is in braille? Like: greater 
> than: dots 3, 4, 5.
> On Sep 27, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul E. 
>> I do not know if you can edit the table. In my case, I have no reason to. It 
>> looks fine. So far, I can't see any problem with it. Are you thinking about 
>> taking out the control characters? If so, I would rather be able to turn 
>> them on and off, but right now I'm just glad I can do it at all. My PacMate 
>> display is starting to give me some trouble, although it's still usable. If 
>> it costs too much money to fix it, I just may need to use my other display 
>> on the Mac. At least I won't have to install Windows just for that now.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Gigi,
>>> Can we actually edit the braille table in use?
>>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 12:16 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I sure wish that when I wrote Apple they had saiD back to me there indeed 
>>>> is a way to display in computer braille. I have found that you don't have 
>>>> to go to Unified Braille. For all I know this works in all the languages. 
>>>> 
>>>> If you choose English and uncontracted braille and then turn on dots 7 and 
>>>> eight, you get computeer braille, complete with control characters. This 
>>>> means you can get a braille display of new lines, tabs, etc. I can't even 
>>>> do that on my PacMate these days, although I could on my old Braille Lite 
>>>> 40. I was really upset when I lost this ability. Now I think I have it 
>>>> back. I can't wait to tell my friend in Nebraska who was disappointed that 
>>>> VoiceOver didn't have computer braille.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Gigi 
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