Hi Gigi, Well these control characters are actually what I was wanting to know to begin with, and these few already solve this matter. I thought that a j with dots 7 and 8 was some kind of graphic, but it being a linefeed clears it up. M with 7 and 8 is carriage return, because 13, and m is the thirteenth letter of the alphabet, is ascii code for return. I understand it now. Linefeed is the j because j is the tenth letter of the alphabet, and in ascii code, decimal 10 in ascii is exactly the linefeed. Interesting. Formfeed is twelve in ascii code, so taking the twelfth letter of the alphabet, that becomes the l with 7 and 8. Interesting. Thanks a lot. If you edit the file you mentioned, it will be interesting, but this already helped. Thanks again. Paul. On Sep 28, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> Hi Paul E. > I had this information originally in an, I think an old VersaBraille manual > or maybe the old Braille Lite manual. I do have on my computer a file from > BANA which is called Computer Braille. There are some things in there like > dots 456 twice for underline which don't apply to computer displays. However, > most of what's in there applies. When I have some time, I'll edit this file > and send it to you. There probably is a better file found I'll bet in the > manuals for braille displays. You might check yours and see if there is a > listing in there of computer braille code symbols. > > Most of the other symbols that you are talking about include control M for > carriage return, control L for page break, control I for tab, and control J > for form feed. You probably won't see, in a braille file, most of the other > control characters. > > Regards, > Gigi > > On Sep 28, 2011, at 1:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: > >> Hi Gigi, >> Yes that's what I would like to do. American computer braille is what I am >> used to, even though I am in Europe. But yes, I'd like to omit the control >> characters for quicker reading, or I would like to have a good way to learn >> them, so I don't see things I don't understand. Is there an overview >> somewhere, where you can see what each character is in braille? Like: >> greater than: dots 3, 4, 5. >> On Sep 27, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul E. >>> I do not know if you can edit the table. In my case, I have no reason to. >>> It looks fine. So far, I can't see any problem with it. Are you thinking >>> about taking out the control characters? If so, I would rather be able to >>> turn them on and off, but right now I'm just glad I can do it at all. My >>> PacMate display is starting to give me some trouble, although it's still >>> usable. If it costs too much money to fix it, I just may need to use my >>> other display on the Mac. At least I won't have to install Windows just for >>> that now. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Gigi, >>>> Can we actually edit the braille table in use? >>>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 12:16 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>> >>>>> I sure wish that when I wrote Apple they had saiD back to me there indeed >>>>> is a way to display in computer braille. I have found that you don't have >>>>> to go to Unified Braille. For all I know this works in all the languages. >>>>> >>>>> If you choose English and uncontracted braille and then turn on dots 7 >>>>> and eight, you get computeer braille, complete with control characters. >>>>> This means you can get a braille display of new lines, tabs, etc. I can't >>>>> even do that on my PacMate these days, although I could on my old Braille >>>>> Lite 40. I was really upset when I lost this ability. Now I think I have >>>>> it back. 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