Yup, no reason to not let folks know there is an issue, just understand
that nobody else seems to know how to fix it either. Friend of mine
worked on the captcha used on AOL where they layer up two voices which
isn't all that hard to decipher but I think would be difficult for
something like Dragon to pick apart. There is a running conversation in
the background while the 'good' letters are spoken over top. You can
hear him as the lower male voice on some letters.
CB
On 9/12/11 5:55 PM, Rachel magario wrote:
I second that. We cannot nearly request that security be lowered for our sake.
I believe your explanations are very educative, specially to those who are not
aware of the difficulties developers face. However, I feel there is a place
also for the expression of the frustrations with in reason, because is from
those frustrations that designers can understand unmet needs. The ideas and
potential solutions can only spring from good conversations such as the one we
are having.! I love this list. Never seen more civilize people working together.
Only harmony can bring productive results, and I think it is awesome having
awesome knowledge as everyone here with their experiences. Thanks Chris and
every one. Keep your comments coming!
Cheer up,
RM
On Sep 12, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
It all comes down to the purpose of captcha. It is a cognitive test by
supplying a puzzle that would be difficult for a computer to solve to try and
prove you're not a bot. Today there are very few of those kinds of puzzles.
Image and audio recognition are about the only two that haven't been cracked
and it's turned into an arms race. Eventually the algorithms will be
sophisticated enough that they will either mimic human behavior undetectably or
the cognitive load to solve the captchas will increase to the point where real
people can't solve them (already happening). Either scenario ends badly for
those trying to protect the integrity of their content sites. In the meantime,
just saying the current stuff doesn't work doesn't help because nobody has come
up with a better solution. Anything that lowers the puzzle difficulty also
makes it easier for the algorithms to solve.
Some previous discussions on this list:
http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@macvisionaries.com/msg43663.html
CB
On 9/12/11 4:04 AM, Adie wrote:
Guys,
I am fed up of audio captcha. My Member of Parliament currently has a
question in to the UK Prime Minister about use of audio capcha on
government websites. I know it's a drag, but we need to challenge
these things every time we come across them. I was on a site the other
day which had a simple equation instead of an audio captcha. It was a
joy.
BTW, I love the bit where it says the audio captcha is to test whether
or not you are a human being. I always write to them saying that,
despite the fact that I can't see, I am nevertheless a human.
Cheers
Adrienne
On Sep 11, 9:05 pm, Eric Oyen<eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
I find that rather interesting. now why would the general public (and business
professionals) get the impression that mozilla was the most accessible web
browser for any OS? sure it works well with windoweeyes and jaws in the windows
platform. it also works mostly with orca in linux. it does not work at all in
OS X with voiceover (and I have even tried growl with it and still had a lot of
issues).
I have sent more than a few emails over the last few years and all I get back
is nothing but a load of crapola and finger pointing. now I know we can't
prevail upon a bunch of volunteer code monkeys and still have them do the work.
if they were paid and we wrote the checks, that would certainly be a different
case.
-Eric
On Sep 11, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Rachel magario wrote:> the sad part is that
loads of programers think firefox is the most accessible browser out there. They
get shocked to find it does not work on the mac. I recall a programer at my work
insisted that I should use mozilla. Only after he tried using it with vo by him
self, was when the message got across!
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