Eric and all following this thread, I am not sure why they think that. Perhaps, because it is claimed to be the most accessible for jaws and for orca too? Also it is not owned my apple or Microsoft. The volunteers who work for open source, usually dislike the oppressive proprietary companies. The only strange thing is that if they want open source free software to the reach of all, I don't understand why they would dismiss Adrian and other who have requested accessibility for screen readers. I understand not wanting to budge to the impositions of apple standards, but is sort of dismiss the purpose of open source for everyone, doesn't it? We are part of the all! ;) Also, I am not sure of the accessibility of mozilla, having to have a webvisiom and use aria and all that, seems to complicated sometimes. I am the type of person who likes to use it right out of the box, like the Iphone! :) I don't mean to be disrespectful for people's efforts. In the contrary I am very grateful. However, in my profession of interaction designer, I realize businesses and everyone is looking for more intuitive services and systems. The more competitions the harder everyone work at it. But it if interesting, how for screen readers and other assistive tech, the field looks very different, it is not about making it easier and more intuitive all the time. A lot of the time is not even considered by big corporations other than apple, or we are always talking about making a new gadget, or a new product to substitute something that have several versions out there and all we need is for them to be accessible, Just like apple did, perhaps vo is not perfect yet, but we know apple cares enough for keeping on fixing bugs and improving our products as they improve for the rest of the world. Then I think, what if some day Apple becomes our only choice because nobody could could survive as small assistive tech companies and the people at apple did not care as much any more? I mean, I don't think that would ever happened, but my point is, what if the next great phone was red berry and that become the standard in companies, and no built in screen reader, then we go back to the having to built a third party software that does not work out of the box and have a huge learning curve. I just wish there was a way to make other people see that competition is good and pays off. I mean, how long have we fought with Amazon to make kindle accessible? I mean not even their iPhone app is accessible, and every thing is there for them, the screen reader, it is just a matter of coding right. Ok, i talked to much already. Respectfully, Rachel
On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:04 AM, Aide wrote: > > > Guys, > > I am fed up of audio captcha. My Member of Parliament currently has a > question in to the UK Prime Minister about use of audio capcha on > government websites. I know it's a drag, but we need to challenge > these things every time we come across them. I was on a site the other > day which had a simple equation instead of an audio captcha. It was a > joy. > > BTW, I love the bit where it says the audio captcha is to test whether > or not you are a human being. I always write to them saying that, > despite the fact that I can't see, I am nevertheless a human. > > Cheers > > Adrienne > On Sep 11, 9:05 pm, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I find that rather interesting. now why would the general public (and >> business professionals) get the impression that mozilla was the most >> accessible web browser for any OS? sure it works well with windoweeyes and >> jaws in the windows platform. it also works mostly with orca in linux. it >> does not work at all in OS X with voiceover (and I have even tried growl >> with it and still had a lot of issues). >> >> I have sent more than a few emails over the last few years and all I get >> back is nothing but a load of crapola and finger pointing. now I know we >> can't prevail upon a bunch of volunteer code monkeys and still have them do >> the work. if they were paid and we wrote the checks, that would certainly be >> a different case. >> >> -Eric >> On Sep 11, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Rachel magario wrote:> the sad part is that >> loads of programers think firefox is the most accessible browser out there. >> They get shocked to find it does not work on the mac. I recall a programer >> at my work insisted that I should use mozilla. Only after he tried using it >> with vo by him self, was when the message got across! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
