Rose,

I couldn't have said things better had I wanted to!  Thanks for the comments.  
Greatly appreciate them.

Chris.

On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Rose Morales wrote:

> Hi all,
> I've been on this list for a long time, and though I've been very quiet, I've 
> not neglected it. I've been watching this list pretty much every day. I've 
> not said much because I have no questions to ask and nothing really to say. 
> My belief is that if you have nothing upbuilding to say on a list, just don't 
> say it. And I try to stick by that. But now I think it's time to chime in 
> here, because I've seen a lot of negative posts lately. I'm hoping I can 
> bring some balance.
> 
> Guys, I don't think Carolin intended to start a do you like or hate this list 
> discussion. Even in the days of Jeff and Cara being the primary mods, they 
> would suggest that feedback go to them. So I am not writing to contribute my 
> own thoughts along this line. Yeah, there are negative things I could say 
> too, but think about this. Are your negative comments really helping anyone? 
> Sure you might find others who agree with you, but it's only causing 
> division. If you guys have a problem with this list, do your part to be an 
> example. Be what you want other list members to be like. When people join a 
> list, they observe how others post and decide how they will proceed based on 
> said posts. The more high quality posts there are here, the more likely it 
> will be that other people will find themselves posting using the same conduct 
> and standards. THe more high quality posts they see, the more they'll want to 
> post and contribute.
> 
> I hope I've given you all some food for thought.
> Rose
> 
> On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> I agree with Ray.  The list will eventually return.
>> 
>> Also, Ray, I never suspected you were picking on me directly.  You said 
>> nothing in your mail to indicate such.  Don't worry about it, my friend, you 
>> took a stance in saying what you felt, and that's ok.  It's your right.  
>> Even if you were picking on me, I would not have liked you doing so on list, 
>> but reality is, it's your right.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> So sorry to see you leave us.  Indeed, let me go further.  I'm sorry to see 
>>> the former quality of this list degenerated in to something that, to speak 
>>> frankly, it has no business being.  It certainly was not this way when I 
>>> first came on board.  To speak candidly, it would appear that certain 
>>> people get very agitated when Apple, (or for that matter anybody else) 
>>> doesn't respond immediately to them and solve all their problems like the 
>>> world revolts around them.  No Chris, I'm not picking on you particularly; 
>>> though it may perhaps seem otherwise.  Look, let's face facts.  We al of us 
>>> are trying to get used to this new beast we find under our hoods.  Some of 
>>> us like it and others have issues.  Frankly, it seems to me that emotions 
>>> are running rather too high to suit the circumstances.  I'm remaining 
>>> though.  Why?  Simple.  I know that, eventually, this too shall pass and 
>>> the list will return to normal.  At least, that sure better happen.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:16 AM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello list members:
>>>> I'm writing in response to some of the latest goings on here.  I'm 
>>>> Carolyn, a former moderator of the group.
>>>> When I was asked to back off, and then told summarily that hundred of 
>>>> people had complained about my mod style, I decided perhaps my 
>>>> expectations were just too stringent, and pushing people away.
>>>> I can not continue to be on this list as it currently is.  I'm considering 
>>>> starting a resource list for semi-professional interchange , and would 
>>>> like to know if there's any others interested in such.
>>>> 
>>>> If I'm alone in this endeavor, at least I'll know for sure that I tried.
>>>> 
>>>> My email is chaas0...@gmail.com.  Please only interested people respond, 
>>>> as I've had enough hate mail for one lifetime.:)
>>>> 
>>>> Take care, and thank you for reading.
>>>> Carolyn
>>>> 
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