I've been told not, but I guess I should look.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Krister Ekstrom" <kris...@kristersplace.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: OS X Lion and VoiceOver issues
Hey,
Pardon my utter stupidity, but can't you set that in preferences?
/Krister
22 jul 2011 kl. 08:33 skrev Shen:
Yes, exactly.
You have no indication whether the download started or whether it is a
broken link.
It seems to be mimicking the same behavior as Internet Explorer 9.
I much prefer having the download window open and show me the downloads
instead of navigating to the toolbar and clicking on the button.
Call me old-fashioned,
On Jul 21, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I somewhat disagree with Buddy. OK, the download window is accessible to
get to and once there works, but, if you click a link and a file starts
downoading, you you hear is the link was pressed. You get no indication
that it started downloading a file, so you just have to assume, then go
look if you're so inclined. Definitely! a back-peddle in my opinion.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" <bu...@brannan.name>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: OS X Lion and VoiceOver issues
I agree completely with the mail sluggishness issues, particular if a
message is very long or a conversation thread has more than a few
messages in it. However, I don't see the downloads thing as an
accessibility issue at all. The button is perfectly accessible, there's
no trouble finding it, and once opened, the download window looks just
like it did before. It's just different from the previous version, but
IMO, no less accessible.
--
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Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
On Jul 21, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
Dear MacVisionaries,
I've just sent the following letter to Apple Accessibility. I hope it
provides a decent summation of some of the issues we've been
experiencing with the new OS, and that it will give them a better idea
of what sorts of things should be looked into when they upgrade the
product.
I'll be sure to forward any response I receive.
Best,
Zack.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Zachary Kline <kli...@onid.orst.edu>
Subject: OS X Lion and VoiceOver issues
Date: July 21, 2011 1:58:13 PM PDT
To: Apple Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com>
Dear Apple Accessibility,
I have recently upgraded my mid 2010 macbook pro to Lion, and have for
the most part been quite pleased with its performance. However, there
are a few troubling developments which degrade the overall quality of
the experience.
THe Launchpad and Mission Control features seem mostly accessible, but
there are some omissions which render them less useful than they could
be. There seems no way to move applications into folders, or indeed at
all, using VoiceOver. Drag and drop does not do the expected thing.
Mission Control is somewhat better, but Spaces seem impractical because
there is neither any way to delete them nor to move between apps in a
single space.
Safari and Mail also present accessibility problems. Safari's new
downloads popup is not ideal accessibility-wise, and while it works
after a fashion the old downloads window was preferable. Similarly,
Mail seems sluggish, often reporting that it is busy, especially in the
new layout. Drag and drop is inconsistent here as well: the Favorites
bar can be added to with the new shortcuts, but Voiceover refuses to
drag items which have a press action, thus requiring the old mouse
toggling shortcut to remove them.
These are a representative sampling of the various issues I've
encountered in using Lion with VoiceOver. I hope that at least some of
these may be fixed in the near future, as this would greatly improve
the usability of the system.
Yours sincerely,
Zack Kline.
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