I'm glad I could be of help.
Chris.
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From: Jenny Wood
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: single letter navigation
This is absolutely awesome! Thank you very much for the info!
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On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
OK, here's what you do.
Firwstly and foremost, bring up Safari.
Now, there's a little gotcha to this. Let me see if I can explain this.
The problem you're gonna have is Under the voiceover utility, there is a
category called commanders. Now, you have a fourth tab under there called
quick nav. The problem is If you simply go under here and check the box to
enable quick nav, what this does is, it sets things so that quick nav is by
default enabled. This would mean it would be as if you had hit the left/right
arrows together and turned it on. Now that it's enabled you can also vo+down
in this screen and tell it to use single letter navigation. Now this all looks
great doesn't it. Well, there's a little catch to this though that most people
don't think about.
Maybe I'm just too thorough, but I caught this issue pretty well, right
away.
Here's the thing. If you enable quick nav through here. You're doing it
globally.
In other words, If you enable quick nav through here, that's gonna turn it
on regardless! where in lion you are. this can be incredibly! annoying! There
surely are some apps you don't want/need quick nav enabled. Well, so fine,
turn it off in those apps. Yeah, you say that... then try going back to
Safari, and watch. There goes your quick nav in there, too. Now your letter
nav doesn't work anymore.
So, what's the sollution? Simple!
What I've! done, personally, is I've opened up Safari, then made an
Activity and attached it to Safari individually. Then when setting it up, I
chose to keep other settings. It's a check box in there. Once I checked that
box under the activity category, I hit vo+right arrow, and went over to quick
nav and checked the box. Then I hit vo+space on the set quick nav button. Now
in here, I told it to use Quick nav, and letter navigation. Then I attached
the activity to safari.app. So, now, what happens is, if I am not in Safari,
quick nav isn't on. the minute I either launch it, or command tab, or whatever
into it, magically, Quick nav now is enabled and my single letters work.
One more thing to know.
If you have quick nav on in Safari, then as soon as you reach a text box,
say like the google search box, or say, a place to enter on a form your name,
etc. If you have quick nav on but single letter off, this problem won't exist,
same goes if quick nav's off totally. but if quick nav, *and!* single letter
are on, as most people would probably want it to be, then, what you're gonna
have to do is, you're gonna have to, once vo is focused on the text box, then,
vo+shift+down arrow, and interact with the text box. I know, normally, you
don't interact with text boxes, but trust me with this. If you don't do that
first, then voiceover is going to intercept everything you type as a quick nav
command. When done typing, stop interacting with vo+shift+up arrow, then
you're on your merry way, and can continue navigating as normal.
The final thing is, when quick nav and single letter both are on, if you
vo+space, or up+down arrow, either/or, on a popup menu in a web site, be aware
that first letter navigation won't work. For this, I suggest once the box is
opened and dropped down, hit left+right arrows to turn off quick nav. Hit your
first letter navigation or whatever, pick your option with vo+space, then turn
quick nav back on with left+right arrows. Again, that's only if you obviously
want! to use first letter nav in a popup that may be really big.
Otherwise, don't worry about it.
Hope this helps.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "chad baker" <baker3...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:20 PM
Subject: single letter navigation
hi is there a way to do single letter navigation can't find it
thanks
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