Perhaps you have to consider the fact that others have asked for this. I do not and never have used JAWS; however, I do see the advantage in having the single-letter navigation. You do not have to use this feature. Apple would not implement such things unless there was a really good reason. You have to look at the story from the other end and consider what may be the reasons behind certain features or how they are implemented. Now with that said, I have no feelings either way since I see the value, but yet see how if used it will require one extra step when entering text.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi all. > When i read this post, i get the feeling we are getting forms mode back > again, and i who so wanted to avoid this. It seems, judging by Chriss's > description as if this quick nab/single letter navigation feature is quite > pointless. Why do i keep hearing a voice in my head saying: "Welcome to > Jawsover"? > > /Krister > 22 jul 2011 kl. 04:44 skrev Jenny Wood: > >> This is absolutely awesome! Thank you very much for the info! >> >> -- >> >> Jenny Wood >> Phone: (972) 989-3894 >> Email: kc5...@gmail.com >> Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >> >>> OK, here's what you do. >>> >>> Firwstly and foremost, bring up Safari. >>> >>> Now, there's a little gotcha to this. Let me see if I can explain this. >>> >>> The problem you're gonna have is Under the voiceover utility, there is a >>> category called commanders. Now, you have a fourth tab under there called >>> quick nav. The problem is If you simply go under here and check the box to >>> enable quick nav, what this does is, it sets things so that quick nav is by >>> default enabled. This would mean it would be as if you had hit the >>> left/right arrows together and turned it on. Now that it's enabled you can >>> also vo+down in this screen and tell it to use single letter navigation. >>> Now this all looks great doesn't it. Well, there's a little catch to this >>> though that most people don't think about. >>> >>> Maybe I'm just too thorough, but I caught this issue pretty well, right >>> away. >>> >>> Here's the thing. If you enable quick nav through here. You're doing it >>> globally. >>> >>> In other words, If you enable quick nav through here, that's gonna turn it >>> on regardless! where in lion you are. this can be incredibly! annoying! >>> There surely are some apps you don't want/need quick nav enabled. Well, so >>> fine, turn it off in those apps. Yeah, you say that... then try going back >>> to Safari, and watch. There goes your quick nav in there, too. Now your >>> letter nav doesn't work anymore. >>> >>> So, what's the sollution? Simple! >>> >>> What I've! done, personally, is I've opened up Safari, then made an >>> Activity and attached it to Safari individually. Then when setting it up, >>> I chose to keep other settings. It's a check box in there. Once I checked >>> that box under the activity category, I hit vo+right arrow, and went over >>> to quick nav and checked the box. Then I hit vo+space on the set quick nav >>> button. Now in here, I told it to use Quick nav, and letter navigation. >>> Then I attached the activity to safari.app. So, now, what happens is, if I >>> am not in Safari, quick nav isn't on. the minute I either launch it, or >>> command tab, or whatever into it, magically, Quick nav now is enabled and >>> my single letters work. >>> >>> One more thing to know. >>> >>> If you have quick nav on in Safari, then as soon as you reach a text box, >>> say like the google search box, or say, a place to enter on a form your >>> name, etc. If you have quick nav on but single letter off, this problem >>> won't exist, same goes if quick nav's off totally. but if quick nav, >>> *and!* single letter are on, as most people would probably want it to be, >>> then, what you're gonna have to do is, you're gonna have to, once vo is >>> focused on the text box, then, vo+shift+down arrow, and interact with the >>> text box. I know, normally, you don't interact with text boxes, but trust >>> me with this. If you don't do that first, then voiceover is going to >>> intercept everything you type as a quick nav command. When done typing, >>> stop interacting with vo+shift+up arrow, then you're on your merry way, and >>> can continue navigating as normal. >>> >>> The final thing is, when quick nav and single letter both are on, if you >>> vo+space, or up+down arrow, either/or, on a popup menu in a web site, be >>> aware that first letter navigation won't work. For this, I suggest once >>> the box is opened and dropped down, hit left+right arrows to turn off quick >>> nav. Hit your first letter navigation or whatever, pick your option with >>> vo+space, then turn quick nav back on with left+right arrows. Again, >>> that's only if you obviously want! to use first letter nav in a popup that >>> may be really big. >>> >>> Otherwise, don't worry about it. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "chad baker" <baker3...@gmail.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:20 PM >>> Subject: single letter navigation >>> >>> >>>> hi is there a way to do single letter navigation can't find it >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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