No worries.  It's fine, it happens.  LOL!

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Krister Ekstrom" <kris...@kristersplace.com>
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Woops! Sorry for that, it was unintentional.
/Krister
11 jul 2011 kl. 23.24 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland:

This didn't work for me, though I figured out why. You totally forgot to mention to make sure in the voiceover utility that under navigation, you're set to mouse moves the voiceover cursor instead of mouse follows voiceover cursor. Once I changed this setting, it worked perfectly.

Chris.

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If you have a track pad, after routing the mouse to the voiceover cursor on the "sync" menu, put your finger on the track pad and move it slowly left, you should be hearing "application name button". It might be necessary to move the finger a tiny bit up, but not so much though.
/Krister

11 jul 2011 kl. 18.16 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland:

OK, I tried that but it's not working. Skype is running so could it be on my tack pad I'm not going at a total straight angle? I did route the mouse BTW. When you say grab the physical mouse or track pad, by gragging do you mean just move it left, or do you mean more literally click and drag. I tried both ways with no luck. Track pad commander was disabled.

Chris.

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Press vo+m twice so you're focused on the "sync" menu then route your mouse there and grab the physical mouse and go left from there. You rout mouse to voiceover cursor with cmd+vo+f5.

/Krister

11 jul 2011 kl. 17.49 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland:

Excellent tip. Do you know where I'd need though to route the mouse with my vo+command+F5? What do I need to have focused when I do this.

Chris.

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Hi,
Beside the "sync" menu there's a menu where many icons for apps are, such as skype, evernote, facebook clients etc, should you have them. For some strange reason, those menu choices aren't accessible in the standard way with Voiceover. There is no way as far as i know to get at them. You can access these items with the physical mouse or a track pad by routing the mouse (cmd+vo+f5) and then grab the physical mouse or put your finger on the track pad and gently moving left, you should then hear something like, for example "transmit menu button". Clicking there opens the menu for the app you're on and there you can do various things.
Hope this clarifies things.
/Krister

11 jul 2011 kl. 17.05 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland:

Here's my! question.

Why can we not access things in the status bar? Correct me if I'm wrong, but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, etc. Isn't that? in the status bar? So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! then, well, why can't we access these other things? Am I confused?

Chris.

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No,

This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org



On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a misassumption?

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM
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Hi,

with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar app.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org



On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote:

Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while great, distracting Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the timeline




On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote:
Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without losing your place in whatever program you were in. Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my needs quite adequately. Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the background. I hope that makes some kind of sense.
Missy


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
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I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
either more hidden away or in the wrong place.

It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.


That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.


Just my thoughts.
On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
Hi,
Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter
client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet?
/Krister

9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:

Hello,

there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:

* keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to rewrite all modules about keyboard
* window dialog management is very different in OSX.
* there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows


well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and
it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information.
I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store




Regards
Jonathan Chacón Barbero
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