Woops! Sorry for that, it was unintentional.
/Krister
11 jul 2011 kl. 23.24 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland:

> This didn't work for me, though I figured out why.  You totally forgot to 
> mention to make sure in the voiceover utility that under navigation, you're 
> set to mouse moves the voiceover cursor instead of mouse follows voiceover 
> cursor.  Once I changed this setting, it worked perfectly.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krister Ekstrom" 
> <kris...@kristersplace.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to 
> mac?
> 
> 
> If you have a track pad, after routing the mouse to the voiceover cursor on 
> the "sync" menu, put your finger on the track pad and move it slowly left, 
> you should be hearing "application name button". It might be necessary to 
> move the finger a tiny bit up, but not so much though.
> /Krister
> 
> 11 jul 2011 kl. 18.16 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland:
> 
>> OK, I tried that but it's not working.  Skype is running so could it be on 
>> my tack pad I'm not going at a total straight angle?  I did route the mouse 
>> BTW.  When you say grab the physical mouse or track pad, by gragging do you 
>> mean just move it left, or do you mean more literally click and drag.  I 
>> tried both ways with no luck.  Track pad commander was disabled.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krister Ekstrom" 
>> <kris...@kristersplace.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to 
>> mac?
>> 
>> 
>> Press vo+m twice so you're focused on the "sync" menu then route your mouse 
>> there and grab the physical mouse and go left from there. You rout mouse to 
>> voiceover cursor with cmd+vo+f5.
>> 
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.49 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland:
>> 
>>> Excellent tip.  Do you know where I'd need though to route the mouse with 
>>> my vo+command+F5?  What do I need to have focused when I do this.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krister Ekstrom" 
>>> <kris...@kristersplace.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:42 AM
>>> Subject: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Beside the "sync" menu there's a menu where many icons for apps are, such 
>>> as skype, evernote, facebook clients etc, should you have them. For some 
>>> strange reason, those menu choices aren't accessible in the standard way 
>>> with Voiceover. There is no way as far as i know to get at them. You can 
>>> access these items with the physical mouse or a track pad by routing the 
>>> mouse (cmd+vo+f5) and then grab the physical mouse or put your finger on 
>>> the track pad and gently moving left, you should then hear something like, 
>>> for example "transmit menu button". Clicking there opens the menu for the 
>>> app you're on and there you can do various things.
>>> Hope this clarifies things.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.05 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland:
>>> 
>>>> Here's my! question.
>>>> 
>>>> Why can we not access things in the status bar?  Correct me if I'm wrong, 
>>>> but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, 
>>>> etc. Isn't that? in the status bar?  So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! 
>>>> then, well, why can't we access these other things?  Am I confused?
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:56 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> No,
>>>> 
>>>> This is true.  Mainly because it works out of the status menu.  Bought 
>>>> once configured, Its a treat to use.  Especially with twitter.
>>>> 
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296
>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of 
>>>>> strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover.  Is this a 
>>>>> misassumption?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All 
>>>>> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar 
>>>>> app.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296
>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application 
>>>>>> I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a 
>>>>>> keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in 
>>>>>> which you could compose a tweet.
>>>>>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, 
>>>>>> while great, distracting
>>>>>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with 
>>>>>> the timeline
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>>>>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like 
>>>>>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background;
>>>>>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having 
>>>>>>> to alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a
>>>>>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets 
>>>>>>> without losing your place in whatever program you were in.
>>>>>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet 
>>>>>>> my needs quite adequately.
>>>>>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter 
>>>>>>> were to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it
>>>>>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in 
>>>>>>> the background. I hope that makes some kind of sense.
>>>>>>> Missy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
>>>>>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
>>>>>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
>>>>>>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
>>>>>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then
>>>>>>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested
>>>>>>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability
>>>>>>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter
>>>>>>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
>>>>>>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
>>>>>>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but
>>>>>>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
>>>>>>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
>>>>>>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just my thoughts.
>>>>>>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the 
>>>>>>>> list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter
>>>>>>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from 
>>>>>>> blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus
>>>>>>> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal 
>>>>>>> terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind
>>>>>>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, 
>>>>>>> living on another planet?
>>>>>>>> /Krister
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We 
>>>>>>>>> have to rewrite all modules about keyboard
>>>>>>>>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX.
>>>>>>>>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is 
>>>>>>>>> a twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and
>>>>>>> it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information.
>>>>>>>>> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Chacón Barbero
>>>>>>>>> Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Phone: +34 679953948
>>>>>>>>> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net
>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon
>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon
>>>>>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero
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