You can turn quick nav on and off by pushing the left and right arrows together 
at the same time, then hit the up and down arrows at the same time, this is the 
same as hiting vo space bar, either will work.
On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:

> Hello everyone. Does anyone know how to open applications or folders on 
> IPhones with a Bluetooth keyboard? Is there a VO help key for Bluetooth 
> keyboards on IPhones?
> 
> Thanks so much.       
> 
> On Jun 8, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Kliph&Sharrie <skhleirpehctcoens7...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> what is the address to the mac access list?  I could use all the pointers 
>> and help I can get!  Thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from Minister Miller's IPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Esther <mori...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ray,
>>> 
>>> I wasn't going to comment on the answer Chris gave, but as far as using the 
>>> Control key instead of the Command key in movement combinations, Apple 
>>> started supporting that for text navigation in iOS documents with Bluetooth 
>>> keyboards.  I suppose that was because some Bluetooth keyboards have 
>>> Control keys, but no Command keys (or Windows keys).  So if you are using 
>>> selecting text on an iPhone with a Bluetooth keyboard, Control+Shift+Up 
>>> arrow will work as well as Command+Shift+Up arrow to select all text from 
>>> your current position to the beginning of the document.  And 
>>> Control+Shift+Down Arrow will work as well as Command+Shift+Down Arrow to 
>>> select to the end.  This actually changed in different iOS 4 releases with 
>>> Bluetooth keyboard support.  And at one point Control+Shift+Up arrow would 
>>> make the selection, but VoiceOver wouldn't announce it.  
>>> 
>>> Most of the keyboard shortcuts with Option key combinations that work on 
>>> the Mac also work on the iOS devices, but a few of the combinations still 
>>> don't get announced.  And at the very beginning, some of the familiar 
>>> combinations, like Option+Shift+K for the "Apple" icon didn't even work.  
>>> This is the reason that I haven't posted an official list of the Option 
>>> command keyboard shortcuts for the iPhone --  some of them are still 
>>> changing.  The most recent set got posted to the mac-access list, with lots 
>>> of annotations about which combinations worked, but VoiceOver didn't 
>>> announce (mostly math symbols), and which few worked only for OS X and not 
>>> iOS devices.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:56, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well, actually, Chris, you are not as far off the mark as you think.  
>>>> FN+shift+left and FN+shift+right do in fact select to beginning and to end 
>>>> respectively.  So, of course, do command+shift+up to slect to begining and 
>>>> command+shift+down to select to end.  Both work equally well.
>>>> 
>>>> That business about the control key...we won't go there.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Skype name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>> 
>>>> Facebook:
>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> OK, Teresa's correct, don't even listen to my previous post response.  I 
>>>>> do this so regularly I don't even think about it.  frankly, I don't know 
>>>>> what I was thinking a second ago.  Teresa's exactly right.  Shows what I 
>>>>> know. LOL!  Here's for a senior moment!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa Cochran" 
>>>>> <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: editing?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> command-shift-up and command-shift-down
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So, like I said before, I send email to multiple resipients.  And 
>>>>>>> sometimes I need to get rid of previous senders and headers.  So how 
>>>>>>> would I select to the end and beginning of a document or email?  Thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>> 
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