what is the address to the mac access list?  I could use all the pointers and 
help I can get!  Thanks.

Sent from Minister Miller's IPhone

On Jun 8, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Esther <mori...@mac.com> wrote:

> Hi Ray,
> 
> I wasn't going to comment on the answer Chris gave, but as far as using the 
> Control key instead of the Command key in movement combinations, Apple 
> started supporting that for text navigation in iOS documents with Bluetooth 
> keyboards.  I suppose that was because some Bluetooth keyboards have Control 
> keys, but no Command keys (or Windows keys).  So if you are using selecting 
> text on an iPhone with a Bluetooth keyboard, Control+Shift+Up arrow will work 
> as well as Command+Shift+Up arrow to select all text from your current 
> position to the beginning of the document.  And Control+Shift+Down Arrow will 
> work as well as Command+Shift+Down Arrow to select to the end.  This actually 
> changed in different iOS 4 releases with Bluetooth keyboard support.  And at 
> one point Control+Shift+Up arrow would make the selection, but VoiceOver 
> wouldn't announce it.  
> 
> Most of the keyboard shortcuts with Option key combinations that work on the 
> Mac also work on the iOS devices, but a few of the combinations still don't 
> get announced.  And at the very beginning, some of the familiar combinations, 
> like Option+Shift+K for the "Apple" icon didn't even work.  This is the 
> reason that I haven't posted an official list of the Option command keyboard 
> shortcuts for the iPhone --  some of them are still changing.  The most 
> recent set got posted to the mac-access list, with lots of annotations about 
> which combinations worked, but VoiceOver didn't announce (mostly math 
> symbols), and which few worked only for OS X and not iOS devices.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:56, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Well, actually, Chris, you are not as far off the mark as you think.  
>> FN+shift+left and FN+shift+right do in fact select to beginning and to end 
>> respectively.  So, of course, do command+shift+up to slect to begining and 
>> command+shift+down to select to end.  Both work equally well.
>> 
>> That business about the control key...we won't go there.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, Teresa's correct, don't even listen to my previous post response.  I do 
>>> this so regularly I don't even think about it.  frankly, I don't know what 
>>> I was thinking a second ago.  Teresa's exactly right.  Shows what I know. 
>>> LOL!  Here's for a senior moment!
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa Cochran" 
>>> <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: editing?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> command-shift-up and command-shift-down
>>>> 
>>>> Teresa
>>>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> So, like I said before, I send email to multiple resipients.  And 
>>>>> sometimes I need to get rid of previous senders and headers.  So how 
>>>>> would I select to the end and beginning of a document or email?  Thanks.
>>>>> 
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