What are you talking about?  the way voiceover treats the cursor by default is 
not a bug.

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On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Isaac Obie wrote:

> Hello Ray and all,
> There's another option. One could sit on Snow Leopard for a while and give 
> Lion a chance to work out the bugs....
> Isaac
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ray Foret Jr
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bulk] Insertion point
> 
> All that does is cause Voice Over to always show you what is to the right of 
> the curser.  It WILL, NOT, make the Mac curser move like the windows curser.  
> You must remember, even if you choose this option, the Mac curser is still 
> the Mac curser.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
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> barefootedray
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> 
> On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Johchi wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ray and all,
>> 
>> Isn't there an option on the Mac where you can make the cursor movement act 
>> just like it does in Windows?
>> 
>> Johnny
>> 
>> On 6/1/2011 4:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> Here's something that might prove a big help to you.  Where-as in windows, 
>>> the curser is directly beneath each character you right, on the Mac, the 
>>> curser is immediately to the right of each character you type.  think, if 
>>> you will, of the old electric typewriter.  On an electric typewriter, as 
>>> you will recall, the typing ball causes a letter to be typed and then moves 
>>> over to the right to type the next character.  Well, the Mac curser's 
>>> behavior is rather more like that old typing ball than a windows curser.  
>>> if, for example, you type the word "apple" as soon as you type the letter 
>>> a, the Mac curser will be found just to the right of that letter a.  This 
>>> will allow you to type the p, just like the old  typewriter ball.  What you 
>>> are seeing is not a characteristic of Voiceover, rather, it's a fundamental 
>>> difference in how the Mac handles curser movement for everyone.  So, to get 
>>> back to the "apple" example, let's say you put in too many p's.  How to get 
>>> rid of the third p? 
>> IF you use command+left, this should put you back at the beginning of the 
>> line; and, assuming you've typed the word "apple" at the beginning of this 
>> line, the word also.  IF the word is in the middle of the line, just use 
>> VO+left or right till you locate the beginning of the word.  Now, move the 
>> curser right letter by letter.  IF, IF you have the curser moving to the 
>> right and you hear, "space", followed by "a", that tells you that the curser 
>> is now just to the right of the letter a and is in place to either delete 
>> that A or type another letter to the right of that a.  So, now, you want to 
>> find that extra p in apple.  Just press the right arrow till you hear that 
>> third p spoken.  Now, press the delete or backspace key.  Here's what you 
>> just did.  When you moved to the right of that second p, you heard the third 
>> p and were then to the right of it.  Now, when you backspaced over that 
>> third p, you caused the curser to behave just like the self-correcting key 
>> on an electric type
>> writer.  The curser deleted that third p and then moved in to it's position 
>> so that now, the curser is just to the left of the l and to the right of the 
>> second p in the word apple.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:22 PM, David Eagle wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I'm sure this has been asked on this list loads of times but I must
>>>> ask, since I can't find the answer in Google. I have used windows for
>>>> years, I use windows everyday at work. I cannot come home and suddenly
>>>> get to grips with the way that Voice-Over deals
>>>> with cursoring through text. I'm sure you know what I mean. If I was
>>>> using a windows computer with or without a screenreader,
>>>> I could edit text both the same way. My head is hurting with the new
>>>> way of cursoring through text and I'm making so many mistakes; It is
>>>> taking me ages to write simple documents. Is th--
>>>> http://www.davideagle.co.uk
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