Well the future is heading your way, sounds like it may take up to 5 years or so, but you best look after your CDs in the meantime. Over here music downloads out sell physical CDs and once Apple add the ability to re-download music you have already bought, the same way you can with apps, then I will be going 100% download too. On 17 May 2011, at 14:34, brandt wrote:
> Yes, but the access is shabby, mostly still GPRS. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going > to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > Contact me: > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > MSN: brandt...@live.com > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:34 PM > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G > mobile network? > On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: > >> Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available >> broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >> >> Contact me: >> >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >> MSN: brandt...@live.com >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >> >> >> Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After >> all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about >> were cassette. >> >> In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently >> testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the >> fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ >> >> Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have >> lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . >> On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: >> >>> I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high >>> spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I >>> live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 >>> or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in >>> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>> >>> >>> Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo >>> systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your >>> ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the >>> possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down >>> the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy >>> too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get >>> so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm >>> clocks too. >>> >>> you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. >>> On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non >>>> computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo >>>> in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in >>>> the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the >>>> 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work >>>> for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>> >>>> Contact me: >>>> >>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>>> >>>> >>>> Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop >>>> with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be >>>> made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept >>>> it, the spinning disc is dead. >>>> On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 50000 CDs verses >>>>> 200000 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and >>>>> find out what it costs to produce 1000000 thumb drives, pack them in the >>>>> stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses >>>>> the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. >>>>> >>>>> Warm regards, >>>>> >>>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>>> >>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC >>>>> by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>>> >>>>> Contact me: >>>>> >>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" >>>>> <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk> >>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used >>>>> for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much >>>>> smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be >>>>> transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would >>>>> be not as expensive as you think. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's >>>>>> cheeper, 1000000 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 1000000 copys of the >>>>>> same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Warm regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>>>> >>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC >>>>>> by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>>>> >>>>>> Contact me: >>>>>> >>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Obie" <coac...@verizon.net> >>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Brandt, >>>>>>> I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a >>>>>>> n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I >>>>>>> use a thumbdrive for this. >>>>>>> I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. >>>>>>> So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time >>>>>>> debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the >>>>>>> simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a >>>>>>> single file on a cd to transfer it. >>>>>>> Isaac >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "brandt" <brandt.steenk...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, >>>>>>>> at least. They are still more expensive than disks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Warm regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can >>>>>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 >>>>>>>> PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Contact me: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>>>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>>>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" >>>>>>>> <scottn3...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In >>>>>>>> fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. >>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you >>>>>>>>> do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can >>>>>>>>> install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that >>>>>>>>> anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Warm regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can >>>>>>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 >>>>>>>>> PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Contact me: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>>>>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>>>>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" >>>>>>>>> <scottn3...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of >>>>>>>>> commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure >>>>>>>>> and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was >>>>>>>>> not a benefit to them and their customers. >>>>>>>>> Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always >>>>>>>>> said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. >>>>>>>>> The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching >>>>>>>>> for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So what? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will >>>>>>>>>> always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using >>>>>>>>>> credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD >>>>>>>>>> sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >>>>>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. >>>>>>>>>>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have >>>>>>>>>>> iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. >>>>>>>>>>> You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app >>>>>>>>>>> store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the >>>>>>>>>>> air and get rid of their optical drives. >>>>>>>>>>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's >>>>>>>>>>> just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you >>>>>>>>>>> heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network >>>>>>>>>>> has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were >>>>>>>>>>> concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down >>>>>>>>>>> is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll >>>>>>>>>>> take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. 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