Yes, but the access is shabby, mostly still GPRS.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Moore" <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G
mobile network?
On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote:
Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available
broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore"
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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time.
After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were
talking about were cassette.
In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are
currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who
have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+
Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK
have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 .
On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote:
I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high
spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare
I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading
a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore"
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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo
systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop
your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking
at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide
content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut
down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your
car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get
MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too.
you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century.
On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote:
Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non
computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo
in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in
the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family,
the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I
work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore"
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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop
with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be
made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept
it, the spinning disc is dead.
On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote:
Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 50000 CDs verses
200000 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and
find out what it costs to produce 1000000 thumb drives, pack them in
the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them,
verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week.
Try again.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore"
<moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously
used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive
is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be
transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would
be not as expensive as you think.
On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote:
True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's
cheeper, 1000000 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 1000000 copys of the
same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you.
Warm regards,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Obie" <coac...@verizon.net>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Hello Brandt,
I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's
a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units.
I use a thumbdrive for this.
I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and
macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of
time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this
is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than
putting a single file on a cd to transfer it.
Isaac
----- Original Message ----- From: "brandt"
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To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook
air?
I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for
now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell"
<scottn3...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook
air?
Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive.
In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains
the OS.
On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote:
If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you
do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can
install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that
anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed!
Warm regards,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell"
<scottn3...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook
air?
I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form
of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more
secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction
if it was not a benefit to them and their customers.
Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always
said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being
hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always
watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as
individuals.
On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
So what?
For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will
always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using
credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD
sales. So, the writing is already on the wall.
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org
On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
Hey. Ricardo said he following statement.
Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We
have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media
content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the
Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks
follow the air and get rid of their optical drives.
I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's
just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you
heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network
has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were
concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down
is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me,
it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take
effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or
the App Store.
Shawn
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