Hi Terry:
Welcome to the Mac and to the list.  There are a lot of really resourceful and 
helpful folks here.  Every day, i find something out that I didn't know before.
I haven't delved into terminal.  But, I wanted to give you a pointer that would 
have helped me a lot when I started.  When you're finding that something isn't 
working, try interacting with it (vo-shift-down arrow).  And, sometimes 
uninteresting (vo-shift-up arrow) makes some things work better.  An example of 
this is the find command in Safari.  If you've interacted with a website, the 
voiceover cursor can seriously limit the search.  I've learned that the find 
command often works more effectively if you uninteract with a website.  
Enjoy your Mac journey.

Care

Carolyn  Haas
         
On May 6, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:

> Hi Terry,
> COncerning Terminal, you're not quite correct.  It is quite possible to 
> review the screen.  All you need do first is interact with the shell text 
> area so that you can then use standard VO commands to read the screen.  
> As far as Preview is concerned, you can get it back by finding a PDF file, 
> and hitting cmd-i, to open the Get Info window.  One of he sections in that 
> window lets you select which program to open the file with, as well as 
> whether to use that same program for all files of that type.  
> Hope this helps,
> Zack..
> On May 6, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Terry Klarich wrote:
> 
>> Hello all:
>> 
>> I have recently chunked my old pc and have obtained a nice shiny MacBook 
>> Pro.  I think this is one of the smartest things I've done
>> in quite some time.  My experience with VO on the iPhone convenced me how 
>> far ahead Apple is.  So, I'm extremely impressed with Mac
>> OS and VO.  More things just work.
>> 
>> My natural habitat is unix and linux.  I am a Unix Systems Analyst for a 
>> living.  And, have been doing this for 20 plus years.  I
>> looked in the list archive concerning the terminal application.  It seems 
>> that this application will work; but, one doesn't have
>> any way to review the screen.  Is this correct?  Is there another 
>> application that might work for shell access?  I would really
>> like to chunk my work laptop as well and get away from windows all together.
>> 
>> Also, I did something stupid.  I installed adobe reader.  No need to ask 
>> why.  Must have been all those years under windows.  Or,
>> it could have been those beers I had.  Who can say.  Anyway, I need to get 
>> preview back is the pdf reader of choice while browsing.
>> I have removed adobe reader.  Any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> So far, the switch to Mac has been pretty simple.  I think those months 
>> spent with the iPhone gave me a head start.  I have yet to
>> dig into iTunes; but, will get to that this weekend (hopefully).
>> 
>> I recognize a lot of you all from other lists.  This must be where all the 
>> smart people hang out.
>> 
>> Terry
>> 
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