I did just write to the Web site again, asking about the possibility of an alternative to Flash. I wish I had more info or suggestions, but I am not tech-savvy with such things. As for trying to access the content, first I tried my track pad. I have a MacBook with a track pad. All it did after I followed all steps (I believe!) was say various things such as "desktop" and various text on the site. I don't have an external mouse, so I then tried to use mouse keys. I hit the option key quickly five times, but did not receive any feedback from VO, so have no idea if it took. There was also no feedback when I told click to flash to load flash content from the screen. When I hit vo command 5 (plus function), VO stated the word I was on, which was one of the numbers. When I looked through VO commands, the only mouse commands I found were Mouse Up and Mouse Down and simply Mouse. When I ttried these, there was a definitive click, but no VO response. I tried hitting the left and right arrows along with the other keys (a rather unwieldy feat), but again received no feedback. I suspect strongly that either a lack of info from VO and/or clueless user error is responsible for my lack of success. :) Christine On Mar 29, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> Hi Christine -- I guess I'm not surprised. While I managed to get it working > on mine using those steps, accessing flash content on the Mac is awfully > difficult. > In step 10, which did you use: The mouse keys, a trackpad or a mouse? > When you moved the mouse cursor to the VO cursor and started moving the mouse > to the left, did you hear anything at all while moving the mouse cursor? > Also, did you hear back from the website regarding their use of flash? > Bryan > > On Mar 29, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > >> My frustration continues. I followed all suggested steps, and when I click >> the mouse I'm getting only clicks with no VO feedback, and I can't find >> "empty scroll area" anywhere. >> Christine >> On Mar 28, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >>> Hi Christine, >>> >>> I modified the subject line to separate this out from your Garageband >>> question. Flash is largely inaccessible using VO and I've pasted some >>> details about that at the bottom of this message. But first, here's a >>> method you might find helpful when attempting to access those flash >>> elements on the Irish Gaelic language lesson website. These tips came from >>> other listers in the past, as we all eventually bump up against the >>> inaccessible Flash content issue at some point. This workaround assumes you >>> either have Mouse Keys turned on (Press the Option key 5 times quickly to >>> toggle mousekeys) or you have a mouse or trackpad attached to your Mac and >>> have the trackpad commander toggled off (VO + Rotor on the trackpad). >>> 1. Install Flash Player. >>> 2. Install the Safari ClickToFlash extension as mentioned in my previous >>> email. >>> 3. Restart Safari. >>> 4. Go to your website: http://bitesizeirish.com >>> 5. Navigate to the "Demo" link and press VO Space. >>> 6. Navigate to the free demo lesson and press VO Space. >>> 7. Press Command + Control + A to tell Click To Flash to load all flash >>> elements on the current screen. >>> 8. Navigate to item one in the demo lesson. >>> 9. Press VO - Command - F5 to route the mouse cursor to the VO cursor. >>> (Note -- Add the Fn key to that combo if using a macbook). >>> 10. Use your Mouse Keys, trackpad or mouse to move the mouse cursor just >>> slightly to the left until you hear VO announce "Empty scroll area." This >>> means your mouse pointer is on the flash Play button. CLick your mouse or >>> trackpad to activate the play button and you should hear the pronunciation. >>> Repeat steps 8, 9 & 10 for each item in the lesson. >>> >>> As far as true accessibility of Flash Player under Mac OS, Adobe announced >>> one year ago that they would be implementing accessibility in the next >>> major release of Flash Player across Mac, Linux and Windows platforms. That >>> major release has yet to see the light of day and Adobe has given no ETA. >>> Here's their blog on the subject and you can add a comment to the blog if >>> you so desire. >>> http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html >>> >>> Also, you might consider contacting the developers of the Gaelic lessons >>> website to ask if they could change from flash or add an accessible >>> alternative. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Bryan >>> >>> On Mar 28, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: >>>> I was able to read the numbers, but there are supposed to be buttons to >>>> play so that you can hear the pronunciation. Were you able to use those? >>>> P.S. For material which requires Flash, is there anything we Mac users can >>>> use to access such material? 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