Hi Eric Have you tried some of the general maintenance things such as utilities first aid, verifying and repairing permissions, or doing any re-installs? It would seem to me that if this problem is occurring that often, you could get it to reproduce for one of the geniuses at your Apple store and seek some resolution. If you are running windows on this machine, is it possible that there is a conflict caused by the two systems clashing? Just a couple of my thoughts. Carolyn HOn Mar 14, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> zack, > I am definitely NOT overstating the problem here. I get random failures, and > not just in mail either. It happens so often that I am seriously considering > dumping OS X and installing VINUX. This problem has been occurring with such > frequency that I might as well keep my machine off then use it (more than 20 > times a day). I use this machine as often as I do because I simply don't have > a windows machine and my powerbook is linux only now (no voiceover support > for 10.3.9). > > so, I am left with a choice of having to dump an OS I paid for on a $800 > machine and do without some of the tools I use daily or spend another $1,500 > to $2,000 for a fully outfitted windows machine with JAWS. since I don't have > the money, I don't see a lot of choices. > > -Eric > > On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Eric, >> I think you're overstating the case a bit here... Yes, it's annoying, but I >> haven't found it that annoying. I haven't experienced it as often as others >> here seem to, and the times I have, a quick command-f5 or two solves it. >> Yes, let's email accessibility about this, but let's not loose our sense of >> perspective. It could be much worse, we could be stuck on Windows with a >> screen reader not built into the OS, which when it freezes requires us to >> reboot the system completely. I'll stop now. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: >> >>> this has been a known problem since the inception of snow leopard. I have >>> seen it on all versions 10.6.x and it hasn't gotten any better with time. >>> it appears that it may be a memory leak or a broken library. in any case, >>> it is annoying as hell. I have sent many notices to accessibility. its >>> gotten bad enough that I may start sending bug reports to steve jobs >>> directly. perhaps he'll give the dev team a swift kick in the pants to make >>> this a priority,. perhaps if more of us would do so, it would garner enough >>> attention that apple Inc. would have to do something about this problem. >>> >>> -Eric >>> >>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>> >>>> Robert, although the problem is annoying, this approach you described >>>> might at least be a usable work-around. I will try it the next time Voice >>>> Over abandons me. Thank you very much. >>>> >>>> To all of you who wrote, thank you. Sometimes, the only way to recover >>>> has been to just hit the Power key, wait a second or so and then just >>>> press Enter. Not an elegant solution, but at least it has worked since >>>> "Shut Down" is the default selection in this dialogue.. I will definitely >>>> post a message to the Accessibility Group, apprising them of something >>>> they probably already know by now. >>>> >>>> My best to all and thanks again, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> On 14,Mar,2011, at 4:50 PM, Robert Carter wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>> >>>>> I have this problem on my MacBook as well. I find that the easiest way to >>>>> get VoiceOver restarted is to press control+option+command+f8. This >>>>> starts the VoiceOver tutorial. As soon as the tutorial starts, press >>>>> escape and VoiceOver will restart. I hope this problem gets fixed soon. >>>>> >>>>> It must be unique to the MacBooks as I cannot produce the problem on my >>>>> iMac. >>>>> >>>>> Robert Carter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am using Snow Leopard V 10.6.6 on a Mac Book with 4 GB/RAM. For >>>>>> reasons I do not understand, I occasionally lose Voice Over, especially >>>>>> when I am using Mail. >>>>>> >>>>>> Though the problem is not limited to Mail, Voice Over just seems to >>>>>> "unload itself," and the only thing I can do is repeatedly hit Command >>>>>> F5 until VO decides to make an appearance. Its disappearance is >>>>>> apparently random, i.e. I can't make it disappear at will. >>>>>> >>>>>> Has anyone else encountered this problem? If not, what might be causing >>>>>> it? 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