Hi Everybody,

This is indeed a strange problem.  I haven't had this problem at all.  Of 
course, this doesn't mean that others haven't had it.  I hope it can be 
resolved.

Chris
On Mar 14, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> I think you're overstating the case a bit here...  Yes, it's annoying, but I 
> haven't found it that annoying.  I haven't experienced it as often as others 
> here seem to, and the times I have, a quick command-f5 or two solves it.  
> Yes, let's email accessibility about this, but let's not loose our sense of 
> perspective.  It could be much worse, we could be stuck on Windows with a 
> screen reader not built into the OS, which when it freezes requires us to 
> reboot the system completely.  I'll stop now.
> Best,
> Zack.
> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> 
>> this has been a known problem since the inception of snow leopard. I have 
>> seen it on all versions 10.6.x and it hasn't gotten any better with time. it 
>> appears that it may be a memory leak or a broken library. in any case, it is 
>> annoying as hell. I have sent many notices to accessibility. its gotten bad 
>> enough that I may start sending bug reports to steve jobs directly. perhaps 
>> he'll give the dev team a swift kick in the pants to make this a priority,. 
>> perhaps if more of us would do so, it would garner enough attention that 
>> apple Inc. would have to do something about this problem.
>> 
>> -Eric
>> 
>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>> 
>>> Robert, although the problem is annoying, this approach you described might 
>>> at least be a usable work-around.  I will try it the next time Voice Over 
>>> abandons me.  Thank you very much.
>>> 
>>> To all of you who wrote, thank you.  Sometimes, the only way to recover has 
>>> been to just hit the Power key, wait a second or so and then just press 
>>> Enter.  Not an elegant solution, but at least it has worked since "Shut 
>>> Down" is the default selection in this dialogue..  I will definitely post a 
>>> message to the Accessibility Group, apprising them of something they 
>>> probably already know by now.
>>> 
>>> My best to all and thanks again,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 14,Mar,2011, at 4:50 PM, Robert Carter wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>> 
>>>> I have this problem on my MacBook as well. I find that the easiest way to 
>>>> get VoiceOver restarted is to press control+option+command+f8. This starts 
>>>> the VoiceOver tutorial. As soon as the tutorial starts, press escape and 
>>>> VoiceOver will restart. I hope this problem gets fixed soon.
>>>> 
>>>> It must be unique to the MacBooks as I cannot produce the problem on my 
>>>> iMac.
>>>> 
>>>> Robert Carter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am using Snow Leopard V 10.6.6 on a Mac Book with 4 GB/RAM. For reasons 
>>>>> I do not understand, I occasionally lose Voice Over, especially when I am 
>>>>> using Mail.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Though the problem is not limited to Mail, Voice Over just seems to 
>>>>> "unload itself," and the only thing I can do is repeatedly hit Command F5 
>>>>> until VO decides to make an appearance.  Its disappearance is apparently 
>>>>> random, i.e. I can't make it disappear at will.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has anyone else encountered this problem?  If not, what might be causing 
>>>>> it?  Any and all suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My best to all of you,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
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