This is very helpful, Jim, and I will certainly read the documents to which you referred. However, in order to not make waves here at work, I will use Outlook. Most definitely not what I would have wanted, but it's probably for the best, politically.
Thanks to everyone, Mike On 15,Feb,2011, at 5:07 PM, Jim Barbour wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I did some more digging here, and found out that the answer is that > you need to use outlook. Read on... > > 1) Mail Disposition Noticiation (MDN) does exist, but is very poorly > supported; mainly because it's so easy to get around. > > However, outlook does respect MDN requests. > > The documentation is pretty clear that return receipts are not > reliable, but people use them anyway. > > See here for more info. > > > http://www.chilkatsoft.com/braindump/email_headers/Disposition-Notification-To_header.html > > 2) You can request a return receipt from any mail program, including > Mac Mail. However, Mac Mail does not respect other people's > requests for a return receipt. > > See here for more info. > > http://email.about.com/od/macosxmailtips/qt/et_request_recp.htm > > 3) If your office is insisting that you respect other people's > requests for a return receipt, you'll need to use Outlook. I > did some googling, but couldn't find another email client that > respects these requests. > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 02:55:13AM -0500, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> Actually, when using a client such as MSOE, receipts are sent upon opening >> when a header shows a read receipt. By default it presents a dialog box >> where one can optionally blow off sending the receipt. This, IMHO adversely >> impacts the utility of the read receipt feature. More over, in OE (and >> presumably Outlook as well) it's possible to configure message reading >> options such that receipts are never sent without even having to deal with >> the dialog box. >> >> None of this is really helpful to Mike though. Perhaps the best solution is >> to use filters as someone suggested earlier as well as a CC on your own >> address? >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff >> >> On Feb 14, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Jim Barbour wrote: >> >>> Hey Carolyn, >>> >>> Yes, but a return receipt would be sent when the email is delivered to >>> the imap server, not when the recipient downloads it and certainly not >>> when they read it. >>> >>> Take Care, >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:58:53AM -0700, Carolyn Haas wrote: >>>> Hi Jim: >>>> If I remember right there is a setting in Outlook express, and possibly in >>>> Outlook that automatically requests a return receipt. I personally always >>>> thought it was useless, but I've also gotten the "return Receipt requested >>>> message on some incoming emails. >>>> >>>> I wonder if there's anything in Google server settings for this. >>>> Carolyn H >>>> On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Jim Barbour wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Michael, >>>>> >>>>> Anyone using standard SMTP based mail (whether it be Mac Mail, >>>>> Thunderbird, Outlook, or something else) will not be able to track >>>>> when an email message they've sent out gets read, it just isn't >>>>> possible. >>>>> >>>>> So, the question is, what are your workmates using to read their mail, >>>>> and would it benefit you to use what they're using? What exactly >>>>> are the requirements that are driving this question? If the >>>>> requirement truely is that you need to know when someone has read your >>>>> mail, or they someone needs to know when you've read their mail, then >>>>> I'd say it isn't possible unless you are all using some proprietary >>>>> email system that supports this (not sure which one that would be) >>>>> >>>>> I'd be happy to help more with this, if you can provide more >>>>> information. >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:25:10AM +0100, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>> Greetings to all of you, >>>>>> >>>>>> Here at work, there have been several misunderstandings about mail that >>>>>> was allegedly sent to me, but was ignored by me. For my own protection, >>>>>> I need to be able to know when people read my mail, and I also need to >>>>>> be able to generate receipt requests. this is critical, unfortunately. >>>>>> If I can't get the problem resolved, my only alternative is to use >>>>>> either Thunderbird or Outlook running under Windows, which I will do, >>>>>> though I would much rather stick with Apple's Mail. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can anyone give me definitive suggestions? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you very much in advance, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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