not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t and 
verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones now  if 
they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see I'd have a 
droid in a heartbeat
On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
> with paying for that?
> 
> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
> but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
>> getting jacked over by these companies
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
>>> nit consider jailbreaking. 
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That's what I'm reading.
>>>> 
>>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
>>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>>>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>>>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>>>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for this resource!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
>>>>>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
>>>>>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
>>>>>>> apps,
>>>>>>> also described in jb104.
>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>>>>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>> Hth,
>>>>>>> Rose
>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
>>>>>>>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
>>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
>>>>>>>>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
>>>>>>>>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
>>>>>>>>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
>>>>>>>>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
>>>>>>>>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
>>>>>>>>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
>>>>>>>>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
>>>>>>>>> 
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