Claus,

again, my Toshiba R600 running Windows 7 and with an SSD, is ready to use,
from a cold start, in 17 seconds. this is fully ready, no apps still
loading, JAWS is ready and willing etc.

granted this is with an SSD and a good machine, but it's a point that should
be made. the days when stability of the OS were an issue are really passed
now.

as long as you buy a good manufacturer and don't install all manner of
rubbish software then you shouldn't suffer anymore.

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Neil Barnfather
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-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Claus Thøgersen
Sent: 11 October 2010 12:31
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be...

Hi,

On the other hand a stable Windows xP machine is much more common now than 
with Windows98 or even worse Windows95.  Windows 7 seems to be even more 
stable than xp.

Still the  Macs really have a boot time I have never seem matched on a 
Windows system, and is instant ready after login, very much unlike my XP 
machine that uses about 2 extra minutes to load applications. This is only 
tolerable because hybernation works on that pc.

Claus

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <for...@talknav.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: RE: Can keyboard only navigation ever be...


> Teresa,
>
> as I've pointed out, gone are the days of the blue screen of death on a 
> PC.
> I never have application crashes which bring down the whole machine, 
> haven't
> done so for many years now.
>
> this is purely about navigation with a Mac.
>
>
>
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>
> Neil Barnfather
> Talks List Administrator
>
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
> Sent: 10 October 2010 18:37
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be...
>
> Hi, Neil,
>
> I'm commenting before I read the other replies, so that I can give you my
> own response to what you've written.
>
> First, you can use QuickNav in Voiceover, which will give you most
> screen-reader commands with two fingers on one hand.
>
> Secondly, in my experience, when one application freezes on the Mac, this
> doesn't take down the entire session and cause a blue screen. It's only
> necessary to force-quit the misbehaving application ancd stay in the
> desktop. I've gone for weeks without restarting the desktop, much less
> restarting the computer. I have never done this on Windows. This, to me, 
> is
> a big plus.
>
> Teresa
>
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