I only put the logo on when it fits. Does the android stuff have accessibility 
that is comparable? 
On 2010-10-08, at 4:40 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Me too, honestly, I've been drinking the apple coolade a lot myself lately.  
> I'm already thinking about another Mac, just got the latest IPod touch and 
> now that the WSJ confirms Foxcomm is manufacturing VZ ready IPhones going 
> with the IPhone in January.  The only thing holding me back is there are 4G 
> ready droid phones on VZ and Sprint available and I'm not sure if I want to 
> go with an IPhone on a 3G network or a droid device on the faster network.
> 
> The other thing is Apple Support is just exceptional.  They handed my IPod 
> replacement in just a few days on their dime and couldn't have been nicer 
> about it.
> 
> Count me in for a logo on the door!
> 
> 
> On Oct 8, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> I really enjoyed your message especially when you said all you need was a 
>> Apple Logo on your door!
>> On 8 Oct 2010, at 19:39, Charlie Doremus wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you Scott for capturing my thoughts and putting them into words. I'm 
>>> what is commonly referred to as a "high partial" by my friends. (Hope I 
>>> spelled that correctly. It's early and I just woke up.) I use all the tools 
>>> offered through Apple products. I use vo when I am proofreading large 
>>> content and when I settle my lazy butt down and dive into iBooks. I am also 
>>> known to use magnification on site that have smaller fonts and when my eye 
>>> gets tired. It ain't easy being a Cyclopes in a sighted world, but I make 
>>> the best of it. 
>>> 
>>> Hang in there david, and explore all you options. I fought tooth and nail 
>>> with my partner over Apple stuff for 10 years before we took the plunge. 
>>> Now we own so many Apple devices that it seems the only thing we are 
>>> lacking is an Apple logo on our front door.
>>> 
>>> Take your time, research and ask questions. Throw your impressions and 
>>> ideas at this list and keep in mind that this is a diverse group made up of 
>>> people of differing needs and skill levels. Many of us have been at this 
>>> for years and others only months, but we all all have one thing to offer, 
>>> support. We're here to help you out 
>>> 
>>> Aloha, 
>>> 
>>> Charlie
>>> 
>>> Check out our website www.giantdolphin.com
>>> Look for our new book coming soon! 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> David, don't worry about it, there are radicals in every crowd.  Some 
>>>> folks feel that being blind is like being part of some sort of race and 
>>>> view vision or people who use vision as inferior.  People of the same ilk 
>>>> who would with hold medical treatment from their children so they would be 
>>>> blind and thus of the "same race" that they are.  It's dangerous 
>>>> radicalism that colors advise.  I think everyone's response though with 
>>>> out exception had good intentions and your interests at heart it's just 
>>>> some viewpoints are farther on the edge than others.
>>>> 
>>>> Personally you need to make the call for the best tool for the job.  I'd 
>>>> love to see you become a Mac user simply because for me it's been a great 
>>>> switch and the accessibility features are super.  That's for me though, 
>>>> I'm a totally blind user and my needs differ from yours.  If you can get 
>>>> away with screen mag or high contrast then I say go for it.  The least 
>>>> accessibility tools you'll need to use the better and more mainstream your 
>>>> experience and the least number of compatability / accessibility issues 
>>>> you'll run in to.  Keep it simple and if your vision changes deal with it 
>>>> then.  We'll be glad to help no matter what stage you're in.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck and please do ask questions.  This is a wonderful list with a 
>>>> lot of really sharp folks on it and all sorts of viewpoints so you'll find 
>>>> the answer that fits your needs.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 8, 2010, at 3:59 AM, David Goodwin wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ricardo and Nic,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you both for your recent posts. I had been considering how best to 
>>>>> respond to some of the comments made elsewhere in this thread, but I 
>>>>> think you guys have just about covered things for me <smile>.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All that I am trying to do is determine the combination of tools that 
>>>>> will make using a desktop computer as easy and efficient as possible. At 
>>>>> the moment my residual vision is such that it should be regarded as one 
>>>>> of the 'tools' available to me (and will continue to be so for some 
>>>>> time). And no, this is not me in some kind of denial about the state of 
>>>>> my vision (as some others have hinted at). It is simply the way that 
>>>>> things are for me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On something as small as an iPhone my residual sight has little to offer, 
>>>>> so VoiceOver is my only real choice. However, things are less clear-cut 
>>>>> on a desktop. A screen reader on its own would not be the most efficient 
>>>>> option for me at this time. So, I need to decide whether having VoiceOver 
>>>>> available as an option, along with the more important (to me) screen 
>>>>> magnification and colour inversion, offers any advantages over my current 
>>>>> set-up on a PC. Having now seen the colour inversion feature in 
>>>>> operation, the decision is not as clear as I had anticipated. Looking at 
>>>>> my screen right now, everything is displayed in colours that are 
>>>>> optimized for my sight problems. This would not be the case if I were 
>>>>> typing this on a Mac.
>>>>> 
>>>>> David
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