Hi, I think you guys are kinda losing focus on this one. David didn't ask for advice on what accessibility tool would work best with his vision. :). We are not his doctors. For all we know, He might not need the use of a screenreader for a decade or more. He did stat after all he probably won't need a screen reader for a few computers down the road. It almost sounds like you guys don't have the answer to his questions so your just thrusting voiceover in his face. JMO. On Oct 7, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> With all due respect to you David, (the David considering the Mac), I cannot > agree more with both David and Eric. Best to get the Mac now and just take > the plunge. Sight is a precious thing; but, if yours is going, and you know > that, why acat as if it isn't? Wouldn't it be better, (and frankly cause you > more relief), to just go right ahead and inapt solutions which will serve you > better in the long run? > > > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Oct 7, 2010, at 3:33 PM, David Taylor wrote: > > Hi, > > My experience is that, in general, people who still have some sight spend so > much time trying to use that sight that they really struggle to use any other > sense. The beauty of buying a Mac now is that you can freely switch from > method to method of access right away, so you could use the Mac as is until > you want something reading and simply start Voice Over for that task and then > quit it again. Voice Over is used by people with dyslexia as well as blind > people. Alex is such a good voice that even sighted people can cope with > listening to him. > > Cheers > Dave > > On 7 Oct 2010, at 20:48, Eric Oyen wrote: > > I wholeheartedly agree. > spare yourself the increased pain of trying to use fading vision and get a > mac with voiceover on it NOW. learn voiceover and you'll be all set to go > when vision finally fails. believe me when I say this: you don't want to be > stuck trying to learn voiceover while dealing with the fact that you went > totally blind only a short time earlier (I have and its hard). > > -Eric > > On Oct 7, 2010, at 6:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> To speak frankly, David, let me say this to you. >> >> If you know your vision is going, why cheet yourself out of a Mac now? Why >> not just make the jump to Mac right away and start using Voice Over? It >> seems to me, (IMHO) that you're consintrating too much on using the little >> sight you have left, and therefore, on the wrong thing. I think it would >> benefit you to get a Mac now, and, just take the plundge. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >> >> E-Mail: >> rforetjr at comcast dot net >> Skype Name: >> barefootedray >> >> On Oct 7, 2010, at 8:21 AM, David Goodwin wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Just back from the local Apple retailer. I had anticipated having a Mac Mini >> under my arm at this point, so I am a little surprised (and probably a >> little disappointed too) that I have returned home empty-handed. >> >> I had gone to the store to see how the Mac would perform with a combination >> of magnification and a white on black colour scheme. The magnification >> worked well, but unfortunately the white on black colour scheme was less >> satisfactory. I had hoped that it would be similar to the high contrast >> feature on the PC, where it basically rewrites the colours used by the >> operating system and software (albeit it not always successfully). This >> means that on a PC I can have it so that nearly all screen elements >> (desktop, toolbars, tooltips, menus, etc) are shown in my preferred colours. >> However, on the Mac all that I can do is invert all the colours that are on >> the screen. Apart from doing ugly things to images and video, this is far >> from ideal when the screen contains both dark on light elements and light on >> dark elements. This means that I cannot simply turn on high contrast and >> forget about it. Instead, I suspect I would be constantly toggling colour >> inversion on and off depending upon what is on the screen at the time. >> >> Unless I have missed something, this might make a PC a better option for now. >> >> Regards >> >> David >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Eric Oyen - N7ZZT > Phoenix Arizona > Geocode: > 33.488462 -112.234926 > N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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